MOTTO
Truth will rise above falsehood as oil above water. (Miguel de Cervantes)
I am thinking about the vegetable oils- I had to epoxidize them in 1962-4...
DAILY NOTES
a) The other LENR
It is obvious that my action of finding daily- if possible s soon as they are published
all the paper and presentations regarding Low Energy Nuclear Reactions- the most frequently used keyword being "LENR" the acronym for our main subject.
Google Scholar is sending me each second day all the scientific publications re these words.
A disturbing fact is that LENR is also the acronym of "Liquid Epoxyidized Natural Rubber: something related to my old specialty- plastics.
The polysemantic character of acronyms - multiple and diverse significances was illustrated here:
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2013/07/re-thinking-scientific-method.html
I have no experience with natural rubber- however epoxidized played a great role in my career in chemical engineering.
Please have the patience to first read the "communist kangaroo court" part in this
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2016/05/may-15-2016-sunday-issue-about-lenr.html
What I tell you nowhas happened in the same plasticizer factory, SOLVENTUL Timisoara.
Anyway after that ugly case and because I succeeded to solve some problems I was
placed in the research Department of SOLVENTUL and the first research project I lead from the part of the factory was the pilot plant for "epoxy plasticizers a new line of products- food grade products manufactured by reacting vegetable oils- sunflower, soyabean, canola oil and organic peracids- e.g. peracetic made from concentrated acetic acid and H2O2; later hydrogen peroxyde became a good friend used in more cases, new technologies.
Anyway Epoxy was my first project and plant I improved the technology and have shown that the enameled reactor originality chosen and soon broken is useless- a sort of stainless steel is working perfectly. Corrosion and protection against it is vital.
I was known as the epoxy leader when on July 2, 1963 a group of students from the Chemistry University of Cluj came for practice at SOLVENTUL and i met my wife.
LENR epoxy variant is not a frequent keyword, anyway.
b) Discussion with Anonymous re PdD electrolytic continues.
I have answered him- starting with " Pd per se is not the fault"
My discussion partner says now:
And yet you persist in saying precisely that (as you did in the sentence I quoted directly). The correct term is "electrolytic LENR".
I have EXACTLY the same background that you do, only from the perspective of an analytical chemist than a chemical engineer. I've spent plenty of time on chlor-alkali electrolysis cells.
All the problems you refer to can be addressed. Higher temperatures can be reached by operation under pressure (electrolysis works just fine under pressure), and any impurity can be removed. It is just a question of doing sufficient research (which takes money) and engineering, and lots of both. Using gas phase/solid state is much, much simpler and straightforward. But there is nothing inherently insoluble about an electrolytic Pd/D2 system.
My answer:
OK, dear colleague, I am also an idealist regarding the possibilities of our profession- Chemistry, however I also know mainly from actual practice that the 3 antonyms of idealism have to be also accepted: realism, pragmatism and materialism.
I consider that you are not doing the same- see the last paragraph of your new answer.
electrolysis works just fine under pressure It works only in specialized labs or plants and because gases are formed the control will be not easy at all - For LENR it is much too risky, and what will the researcher gain? Ask for example Jean Paul Biberian what does he think- but please tell you do not speak about plasma electrolysis. And remember about the critical temperature of water and its effect on the process. (375 C, not more!)
any impurity can be removed This is worse and I must make efforts to respond perfectly politely- the most disturbing impurities are trivial gases of air and how can you perform deep degassing (a must for working LENR)
in such a cell- both the electrodes and the water phase must be completely anaerobic
Deep removal of impurities this time from the cathode is impossible and in the same time counterproductive- hyper pure PDd is not working. See please what says ENEA and SKINR about micro-impurities of palladium. And what they do not say because analytical chemistry still have limits.
DAILY NEWS
NEWS from the Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project- congrats and thanks to Bob Grenyer
From Gregory Goble
In my opinion LENR technology has passed the cutting edge
https://plus.google.com/107190105791959392745/posts/BM4YondVUnV
I found this but I do not download it- if somebody is interested and well protected..
LENR IN CONTEXT-1
One step closer to reality: Devices that convert heat into electricity
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/12/161222095113.htm
Date:December 22, 2016
Nanoscale 'conversations' create complex, multi-layered structures
Truth will rise above falsehood as oil above water. (Miguel de Cervantes)
I am thinking about the vegetable oils- I had to epoxidize them in 1962-4...
DAILY NOTES
a) The other LENR
It is obvious that my action of finding daily- if possible s soon as they are published
all the paper and presentations regarding Low Energy Nuclear Reactions- the most frequently used keyword being "LENR" the acronym for our main subject.
Google Scholar is sending me each second day all the scientific publications re these words.
A disturbing fact is that LENR is also the acronym of "Liquid Epoxyidized Natural Rubber: something related to my old specialty- plastics.
The polysemantic character of acronyms - multiple and diverse significances was illustrated here:
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2013/07/re-thinking-scientific-method.html
I have no experience with natural rubber- however epoxidized played a great role in my career in chemical engineering.
Please have the patience to first read the "communist kangaroo court" part in this
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2016/05/may-15-2016-sunday-issue-about-lenr.html
What I tell you nowhas happened in the same plasticizer factory, SOLVENTUL Timisoara.
Anyway after that ugly case and because I succeeded to solve some problems I was
placed in the research Department of SOLVENTUL and the first research project I lead from the part of the factory was the pilot plant for "epoxy plasticizers a new line of products- food grade products manufactured by reacting vegetable oils- sunflower, soyabean, canola oil and organic peracids- e.g. peracetic made from concentrated acetic acid and H2O2; later hydrogen peroxyde became a good friend used in more cases, new technologies.
Anyway Epoxy was my first project and plant I improved the technology and have shown that the enameled reactor originality chosen and soon broken is useless- a sort of stainless steel is working perfectly. Corrosion and protection against it is vital.
I was known as the epoxy leader when on July 2, 1963 a group of students from the Chemistry University of Cluj came for practice at SOLVENTUL and i met my wife.
LENR epoxy variant is not a frequent keyword, anyway.
b) Discussion with Anonymous re PdD electrolytic continues.
I have answered him- starting with " Pd per se is not the fault"
My discussion partner says now:
And yet you persist in saying precisely that (as you did in the sentence I quoted directly). The correct term is "electrolytic LENR".
I have EXACTLY the same background that you do, only from the perspective of an analytical chemist than a chemical engineer. I've spent plenty of time on chlor-alkali electrolysis cells.
All the problems you refer to can be addressed. Higher temperatures can be reached by operation under pressure (electrolysis works just fine under pressure), and any impurity can be removed. It is just a question of doing sufficient research (which takes money) and engineering, and lots of both. Using gas phase/solid state is much, much simpler and straightforward. But there is nothing inherently insoluble about an electrolytic Pd/D2 system.
My answer:
OK, dear colleague, I am also an idealist regarding the possibilities of our profession- Chemistry, however I also know mainly from actual practice that the 3 antonyms of idealism have to be also accepted: realism, pragmatism and materialism.
I consider that you are not doing the same- see the last paragraph of your new answer.
electrolysis works just fine under pressure It works only in specialized labs or plants and because gases are formed the control will be not easy at all - For LENR it is much too risky, and what will the researcher gain? Ask for example Jean Paul Biberian what does he think- but please tell you do not speak about plasma electrolysis. And remember about the critical temperature of water and its effect on the process. (375 C, not more!)
any impurity can be removed This is worse and I must make efforts to respond perfectly politely- the most disturbing impurities are trivial gases of air and how can you perform deep degassing (a must for working LENR)
in such a cell- both the electrodes and the water phase must be completely anaerobic
Deep removal of impurities this time from the cathode is impossible and in the same time counterproductive- hyper pure PDd is not working. See please what says ENEA and SKINR about micro-impurities of palladium. And what they do not say because analytical chemistry still have limits.
DAILY NEWS
NEWS from the Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project- congrats and thanks to Bob Grenyer
:StarDust: of George Egely- first video:.
From Gregory Goble
In my opinion LENR technology has passed the cutting edge
https://plus.google.com/107190105791959392745/posts/BM4YondVUnV
I found this but I do not download it- if somebody is interested and well protected..
Soha Teb Abzar Co. Ltd - Phonons Theory And Experiments Iii ...
28 mins ago - ... Features of the Classical Electromagnetic Theory and Their Possible Impact to Understand and Enhance Low Energy Nuclear Reaction (Lenr) Polaron theory.
LENR IN CONTEXT-1
One step closer to reality: Devices that convert heat into electricity
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/12/161222095113.htm
Date:December 22, 2016
Source:Ohio State University
Summary:
The same researchers who pioneered the use of a quantum mechanical effect to convert heat into electricity have figured out how to make their technique work in a form more suitable to industry.
Date:December 22, 2016
Source:Brookhaven National Laboratory
Summary:
Scientists have developed a way to efficiently create scalable, multilayer, multi-patterned nanoscale structures with unprecedented complexity. The method introduces a significant leap in material intelligence, because each self-assembled layer guides the configuration of additional layers.
LENR IN CONTEXT-2
From Harold Jarche - Personal Knowledge Mastery
http://jarche.com/2016/12/pkm-2016/
Lecturing not useful for developing problem-solving skills in students
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/education/story/problem-solving-skills-in-students/1/839974.html
From Harold Jarche - Personal Knowledge Mastery
http://jarche.com/2016/12/pkm-2016/
Lecturing not useful for developing problem-solving skills in students
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/education/story/problem-solving-skills-in-students/1/839974.html
Peter
ReplyDeleteA famous baseball game was played in
San Francisco on July 2 1963.
https://parallelnarratives.com/essay-warren-spahn-vs-juan-marichal-7-2-63/
Wish you and your family a good Chritmas
and a happy New Year.
Sam
Dear Sam,
DeleteThank you for his nformation, but not this was the most important thing that happened then.
Please accept my very best and sincerest wishes for a
MERRY CHRISTMAS and a HAPPY SICCESSFUL NEW YEAR 2017!
Please send photo of you and yours, i will sen photos of my 3 grandchildren rudy, Silvai and nora total height 5 meters -just a few cm missing.
here great celebrations.. Judith just preparing some very good apple cake.
It is a pity that i am not eating anything sweet- no diabet just personal diet and I cannot eat a s much and drink as much as 50 years ago.
Times change, time changes us. I hope to void really radical changes, I do not like thse surreal age but want to coexist with it for some timeyour old friend,
Peter
Merry Christmas to you and your family and a successful 2017.
ReplyDeleteLennart
Dear Lennart,
DeleteA bright, Maery Christmas perhaps in the best Scandinavian tradition to you and yours.
owhere can you find more beautiful words about Religion as in Selma Lagerlof's writings.
As regarding 2017 it should be splendid for you- and I need your help, see the question today.
Peter
"It works only in specialized labs or plants a nd because gases are formed the control
ReplyDeletewill be not easy at all -"
Sure, it requires specialized equipment. So what?? Such equipment is developed and used daily in industrial research labs around the world. And even in some university labs, although usually in chemical engineering departments rather than chemistry.
Difficult and expensive, not impossible.
"For LENR it is much too risky, and what will the researcher gain?"
Too risky?? Why?? No. Again, difficult and expensive, not impossible.
"....but please tell you do not speak about plasma electrolysis."
No, I don't.
"And remember about the critical temperature of water and its effect on the process. (375 C, not more!)"
And why would you think a higher temperature necessary?? Remember, we are talking Pd/D2, not Ni/H2. All indications are that Pd/D2 "does its thing" at temperatures lower than Ni/H2. We have no idea what the temperature response curve of EITHER system is.
"any impurity can be removed This is worse and I must make efforts to respond perfectly politely-the most disturbing impurities are trivial gases of air and how can you perform deep degassing (a must for working LENR)" in such a cell- both the electrodes and the water phase must be completely anaerobic"
Yes, any impurity CAN be removed. The semiconductor industry operates exactly such processes on a grand scale worldwide on a daily basis.
Many other industries do the same. Again, difficult and expensive, not imposslble.
"Deep removal of impurities this time from the cathode is impossible and in the same time counterproductive- hyper pure PDd is not working. See please what says ENEA and SKINR about micro-impurities of palladium. And what they do not say because analytical chemistry still have limits"
And yet the semiconductor industry does exactly this, controlling purity and "impurity" levels with
exquisite control. I'm sure science can produce palladium of any degree of required purity or doping level needed. Any laboratory that does ultra-trace analysis does impurity control on similar levels.
One of the biggest flaws that I have seen pretty much universally in LENR research (and that includes Pons and Fleischmann), is an inadequate appreciation for impurity control.
Can this be done cheaply and easily...no. But there is nothing impossible about any of this.
What seems to be confusing you is that LENR is working on starvation rations of funding which makes experimentation on the required level of sophistication impossible. But there is nothing "impossible" about the ability to do such experments.
My friend,
Deletenothing is confusing me. I well know waht is possible.
I keep this answer of yours for monday to respond, no disputes on Christamas
HOWEVWER pleas add some practical examples papers about what you say, e.g. highpressure lectrlysis solving a technical problem.
Merry Christmas!
peter
A simple Google search on the term "high pressure electrolysis" returns 7,795 examples. Pick your own favorite.
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ReplyDeleteMr Self Sustain said
Here is another question and answer.
Q: Why do you think most replications fail to produce significant quantities (if any) of excess heat?
A: Lack of hydrogen absorption. That's the number one reason for failure from what I've been able to gather. If you don't have an adequate quantity of hydrogen inside the vacancies, voids, cavities, and bubbles in the nickel particles, all the stimulation in the world won't produce a watt of excess heat. The various nickel prep steps all revolve around preparing the nickel to absorb hydrogen. Simply mixing Ni and LiAlH4 together and hoping for the best will rarely produce positive results. If there's enough hydrogen in appropriate micro or nano structures, then exotic stimulation (such as figuring out the resonant frequency of the coil) is not absolutely required to see excess heat.
According to Rossi's patent, Rossi produces a preprocess fuel fabrication reaction step that converts the commercially available 5 micron nickel particles into sintered nickel fragments between 1 and 100 microns. You have not included this step in your own LENR fuel fabrication method.
http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2016/dec/19/antiatoms-yield-their-first-optical-spectrum
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