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I was reading about a recent symposium about RANDOMNESS in quantum physics and beyond and this has inspired me to think if perfect randomness and- laso- perfect chaos can exist or these are just explosive oxymorons?
Somebody smarter and better educated in philosophy should tell if it is a significant
difference between a perfect chaos and a perfect mess?
This thread of ideas is based on the Shashlov theory presented in part (about the mechanism of the Hot Cat) yesterday, rejecting the Cook-Rossi theory totally, and the comments to the yesterday issue, one by AXIL and one by Gordon Docherty (for convenience I copied the comments to "AXIL SAYS, GORDON SAYS- below)
Very smart ideas overall, however had the revelation of a case of a perfect mess.
Conceptual chaos, extreme complexity, lot of work to do, a synthesis necessary..
Even with the Lugano analytical data we (I any case) have no idea of what really happens and we need so much the data of the coming successful (!) Parkhomov replications. It is midMay and the Lugano testers are still silent; the reaction mixture at Parkhomov is put in a small stainless steel recipient inside - the and this is mixed with the ash... difficult analytics...Li will remain well traceable..but so many disturbing impurities! No problem anyway if we see lots of excess heat coming out of the very dynamic, very chaotic reaction mixture. It is HOT DYNAMIC CHAOS- and it can be made manageable.
However chaos is an active participant in the LENR
But it is also an other kind of chaos in the old LENR country, where mainly the coldfusionese dialect is still spoken.
See please my essay:
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2014/09/the-death-of-wet-pdd-was-highly.html
and then the admirable Materials Science paper analysed in it:
https://mospace.umsystem.edu/xmlui/bitstream/handle/10355/36833/ExcessPowerDuringElectrochemical.pdf?sequence=1
(NOTE: The ending phrase of this paper is perhaps the most enigmatic I ever read:
"By applying the scientific method future work should be oriented towards the definition of the effect rather than its demonstration.)
This paper and few other advanced ones show that the CF effect is critically dependent and in very intricate and inscrutable ways by a spectrum of local impurities- atoms of metals as Zn, Zr, Pt, Rh, Ir than can be really randomly
frozen in the palladium electrode. It is COLD STATIC CHAOS unmanageable and
not actionable. Bad, and not much can be done. More expensive than making transistors.
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Andrea Rossi about the philosophy of History
May 14th, 2015 at 4:32 PM
Koen Vandewalle:
Because if you explain the same thing in the same way to billions of persons, they will understand the same things in millions of completely different ways, then will try pacifically to prevail upon the other interpretations, then, when any diplomatic way will have failed, they will make series of wars to make their way of understanding prevail. At the end, will not prevail who will have understood better, but who will kill more enemies. The latter is also the one who will write the History.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
AXIL SAYS, GORDON SAYS
AXIL:
Analysis of the experimental evidence from Lagano contradictes this reaction mechanism. A more appropriate Analysis goes as follows...The complete conversion of a 10 nm diameter nickel particle might provide supporting evidence that protons find their way into the center of these massive nickel particles by quantum teleportation supported by the entanglement of protons in the hydrogen gas that riddle outside the nickel particle and the atoms of nickel inside the particle. Yes, Teleportation...like in star trek. A proton located in the hydrogen gas envelope does not need to find its way through large amounts of nickel by bumping and grinding their way through all that nickel. These protons just appear like magic inside the micro particle.
This conclusion might seem ridiculous on it face but this conclusion is fully supported by the experimental evidence from Lagano.
If the protons or in fact any subatomic particle did physically penetrate the nickel particle, we would expect that the outer layers of the particle would experience more nuclear reactions than the center of the particle. This penetration type of reaction would produce a layered ash profile. The outmost surface of the particle should have some copper and/or zinc content, and the inside should still have some untouched lower Z isotopes of nickel...like Ni58.
But NO, the particle is pure Ni62, completely homogeneous Ni62, utterly pure Ni62. It must be that the protons that make up the gas envelope see no material resistance to the penetration of the nickel. The entangled protons mated with each nickel atom move through the nickel particle via the 5th dimension in which entanglement works directly through the nickel bulk to its entangled nickel mate into the center of the micro particle or to its dedicate nanowire edge with equal probability. This looks like proton teleportation to me.
And even more perplexing, the delicate nickel nanowire surface covering of the miro particle is pure NI62. This delicate surface nano sized feature has suffered no subatomic particle impact damage what so ever. This ash looks the same as the fuel...physically unchanged but isotopically different.
No neutrons were detected so the active subatomic particle supporting the Ni58 to Ni63 transmutation must be protons from the gas outside the particle. These protons change themselves into neutron after they enter the Ni58 nucleus.
Yes, this is impossible to believe, If it weren't for logic and the results of Lagano experiment, what other answer could there be?
Norman D. Cook abd Andrea Rossi are inventing theory that has no experimental foundation from Lagano data. How can you admire such a misrepresentation of reality?
GORDON DOCHERTY
"The hypothesis the hydrogen nuclei participate in the nuclear reactions is not confirmed."No hydrogen, no reaction, so the hydrogen is definitely playing a role. Further, the lattice has to be saturated with hydrogen. Now, it may, in part, be that in filling the nickel lattice, the hydrogen is preventing the lithium from penetrating the lattice : in any event, experiments done on palladium by the Naval Research Laboratory and Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory - admittedly with Deuterium - see :
http://fr.slideshare.net/lewisglarsen/lattice-energy-llc-us-government-labs-reported-clearcut-neutron-capture-data-from-pf-cells-in-oct-1989-may-13-2015
found that transmutations occurred only at or near the surface of the deuterided metal (in this case, palladium), not in its interior. This is borne out by the need for certain geometries that encourage the formation of NAE regions on crystal surfaces.
This having been said, it is my belief that there have, to date, been four main factors by which energy is being extracted at the nanoscale:
a. ground state reduction - our understanding of ground state needs to change, so that we have "ground state in non-constrained spacetime regions" vs. "ground states in constrained spacetime (that is, Casimir regions). To achieve ground state reduction, charged crystal lattices, or, rather, faults in those lattices, are required to provide the constraint. One direct consequence of this is the production of hydrinos (and, yes, I do believe they exist)
b. Brillouin zones - increasing the probabilities of collisions through deep wells, geometrical constraint and quantum tunnelling (including through the Coulomb barrier local to constrained hydrogen atoms)
c. NAE surface sites - and, in particular, the relevance of the Widom-Larsen theory
d. increased likelihood of penetration of the Coulomb barrier through electromagnetic, nuclear and geometric constraint (transmutation and fusion are, fundamentally, probability-based - the heating and shaking and such like are there to increase the probability of a collision: it is up to the particles themselves as to whether a union then occurs)
Now, these all have certain environmental constraints in common, the most obvious of which are:
1. high local electric fields
2. imposed constraints in how atoms can move and spin, and how close they can come to one another
3. potential wells - both electromagnetic and nuclear (a hill looks high until you see it from the top of a mountain), the electromagnetic to accelerate the particles and constrain their spin, nuclear to constrain now super-excited "pinball" particles inside a deep well able to overcome or tunnel (due to a much increased probability of such) through the Coulomb barrier
4. activation energies, above which quasi-particles can form and energy move freely between nuclei
This last point is nicely explained in:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKzCdmY5B_s&feature=youtu.be&a
So, the scientific community should stop saying "it can't be fusion", and start saying "it can't be D-D, or D-T fusion in a macro-scale, super-pressurized, super-heated but otherwise unconstrained environment". That, no one would argue with.
having said all that, I also agree with Axil above - so, another factor...
e. quantum teleportation, bringing hydrogen nuclei into the centre of metal lattice crystals
Gordon Docherty
My comment maybe got lost.
ReplyDeletePerhaps the random factor is external to current thinking.
Refer to muon catalysed fusion.
This is accepted technology.
Cosmic rays deliver muon bursts to the earth's surface.
Perhaps there is a connection between LENR and cosmic rays.
No, your comment did not lost, I have ignored it with outright hostiliy
DeletePlease do not take this as personal.
I want and I want contribute to the building of a technological future of LENR and if the process depends on something incontrollable as cosmic rays, blck matter, astrology whatever, then NO LENR technology possible.
But take e.g. the Storms books, the results obtained exclude the cosmic ray hypothesis, the situation is better (or worse?) than thta.
Friendly greetings,
Peter
There is a much more simple and straigthforward explanation: Ni62 cames from internal structure of reactor. One of claims of Rossi's patent is the enrichment of Ni. It's possible that only a part of "active" material has been analyzed. The secret sauce is still a secret!
ReplyDeleteAs I have told the situation is a real mess. At least for the analytical part.
DeletePeter