Monday, September 12, 2016



Do not worry, when it turns to chatter, everybody is the world champion, in the real fight on the ring, things are very much different”. 
( Nazzareno Giannelli, European boxing champion of the flyweights, Andrea Rossi's coach) 


a) Answering to a lost comment by Angelo Vigorita

 After accessing a collection of Italian LENR links and connecting with Angelo on Google+, I have received an interesting comment from him. Unfortunately the comment does not appear (from occult causes) on Blogger but I consider it is worth more than an answer:

Angelo's comment:

"if we exclude Andrea Rossi it seems no one has yet found a way to produce energy on a continuative way with LENR. Perhaps the armed forces, scientists working on "hot" fusion, or secret services of various countries, have done everything to hinder research, but if it were easy, someone in the world would do it after almost 30 year 
But there are a lot of evidences, maybe small, of nuclear transmutations in many different experiments.
We are capable of sending a probe to pick up a rock sample on an asteroid, but we are not able to study what happens on the surface of a palladium filament?

Perhaps we should leave Andrea Rossi on his way, and if he is right this will open a new era; in the meantime focus on small evidence, without thinking for now to the energy future of humanity.
Put simply skeptics in front of phenomena to explain and understand.

What do you think about these considerations? "

My pre-answer.

Yes Angelo, I find your ideas/mode of thinking very interesting and I want a direct
discussion with you, I prefer e-mail due to bad vision.
I highlighted two ideas of yours;
"the complexity of the surface of palladium" see please b)

"the possibility/necessity to make a sharper distinction between Rossi's LENR and the Science of LENR, between technology-engineering and science, between LENR and LENR+- if I understand you well- it is a case of not mixing things that differ, more or less fundamentally. This differentiations actually happens because we still not understand the mechanisms- but on longer term, bridge building will start and this needs wisdom and creativity.
Feel free to write in Italian.

b) The unbearable subtleness of palladium's "nuclear" quality- fitness of use 

 A problem that is over-discussed but still under-understood: It is generally accepted that there exists palladium of nuclear quality i.e. is fit for use as cathode in the Fleischmann-Pons type cells. Some sorts are better than other sorts- this is an empirical fact, more or less certain.  This is the "know what" stage, by hard work it was added a lot of "know how" because actually the good sorts are those which can be made to work, they are not automatically good by birth- just talented.
However if we try to go to the "know  why" stage the problems start to become insurmountable. We have instruments to study the metallurgy of Pd, its morphology
(a word that triggers my enthusiasm due to my PhD Thesis that was about the correlations   between suspension PVC's morphology and processability) - but for nuclear Pd it seems not enough, any and all kinds of microscopy do not show really relevant features- the effect is of the hyper-fine  level, see ENEA's and SKINR's most recent and coming publications

At ICCF20 we will see:
Hyperfine Interactions in Pd foils during D/H electrochemical loading (20) Graham Hubler (University of Missouri, USA) 

There is no method yet to put in evidence Ed Storms nano-voids NAE.
Too subtle to be understood, too inscrutable for measurement, too complex to be described- lacking actionable parameters to be investigated fully empirically it seems that the secret of good nuclear quality palladium is sentenced to partial incognoscibility. 
PLEASE contradict me with facts.


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Post 1 of 2

The LENR damping field

The fact that both eros and Holmlid do not see gamma radiation, or for that fact, not very much of any other type of ionizing radiation suggests that a LENR radiation damping field is in place within these experiments. This damping field makes figuring out what is going on difficult and otherworldly (aka the twilight zone).

The damping field is yet to be understood or even accepted by most everybody. This damping of ionizing EMF is caused by entanglement of sub atomic particles produced by nuclear reactions that occur under the causation of Bose condensation engendered by the ultras dense (metalized) hydrogen.

Distance from the reaction has no impact on entanglement, so secondary nuclear reactions that occur meters or even kilometers away from the Bose condensate are connected to and controlled by that condensate.

Energy from sub atomic particle decay(mesons, kaons, pions, muons) and secondary LENR catalyzed fissions and fusions are passed back to the condensate where they are stored and reformatted into heat, light, and XUV.

For example, as a speculation, fission and fusion could be going on inside the experimenter’s body, but the gamma radiation that would usually be localized to the site of that nuclear reaction would be sent back many meters to the Bose condensate. This mechanism would work toward mitigating the damage caused by muon catalyzed reactions and decay if not just result in a single and localized point of destruction in a very limited site, say a single cell.

What needs to be discovered is what radiation is mitigated by entanglement and which is not. Does LENR affect the body like a virus that will destroy a large number of cells without DNA damage or is DNA damage produced in LENR secondary radiation?

If Holmlid is producing fusion at the level he states he should be dead now. Something is occurring in LENR that is completely unanticipated. The energy that all those sub atomic particles are carrying is not being wasted, it must somehow be recycled around in the LENR reaction.

When is entanglement broken between the fuel and the muon?

LENR could behave like a hive of bees where the queen sends out workers to bring back food for the colony.

There is another possibility that would be even weirder. If the muon and the Bose condensate were energetically connected, then the muon might use the condensate (BEC) like an energy bank to withdraw energy from the concentrate as needed to keep it from decaying.

Only when the entanglement link is broken would the muon decay. The muon could travel a very long distance before it decayed. No matter how much lead that the muon passed through, the entangled muon still might not decay. In this situation where entanglement is broken, that entanglement would not return its energy of decay to the BEC and the muon would be on its own far from its place of birth.

Is bremsstrahlung (deceleration radiation) escape from entangled connect to the BEC or does bremsstrahlung of the decelerating muon sent back to the BEC?

eros might want to take his muon detector far from where his reactor is and test for muons.

It could be that there is LENR happening far from the fuel sending its energy back to the fuel even if the fuel was assumed to be inactive. As eros has mentioned that the fuel stays crazy for a long time unit it is destroyed by acid. The acid could disrupt quantum entanglement ending the connection between long lived muons and their home base: the "spent" fuel.

Post 2 of 2

Maybe LENR likes muons.

It could be possible that LENR wants to produce muons in preference to excess heat. A LENR experiment that shows little excess heat activity could still be producing loads of muons. When the LENR reaction is terminated, the excess heat production ceases but the production of muons could continue apace. It maybe that the fuel remains active but the fuel continues to live in stealth mode with the production of hard to detect muons going on for a long time as eros has observed until the fuel is destroyed.

Holmlid has observed that muons are produced for days and as long as weeks after the fuel has been retired. The fuel looks like it remains muon active.


A test that would show if this line of thinking had any merit goes as follows:

If Bose condensation is producing the LENR shield, then the destruction of that shield could be done through the creation of a large magnetic field near the condensate.

What would happen is that the entangled connection to the muons would be terminated when the magnetic field produced by the electric arc destroyed the BEC. Some fraction of the energy stored in the BEC would be released as x-rays and XUV and the remote muons would be free to decay as they would in the REAL world.

Could the large magnetic fields reported by DGT also be some sort of reaction to the destruction of BEC entanglement and the release of stored BEC energy? DGT mentions seeing microscopic Bosenovas produced in their reactor. Could that be a product of the spark that they used?

From ICCF-18 theory paper from Dr Kim

The brackets { } contain axils additions to increase understanding.

"Nano-explosion (“Bosenova”) and super current

Hydrogen atoms in the ground state, excited states and/or Rydberg states may interact with each other via electric dipole or magnetic dipole interactions and/or other attractive interactions [34] to form pairs of hydrogen atoms in integer-spin states. These hydrogen pairs or hydrogen molecules may be trapped in a {Localized Magnetic Trap} LMT {the LMT is the metalized hydrogen crystal} and form a Boson cluster state (BCS) in the LMT. Once the BCS is formed in a LMT, the {theory of Boson cluster state nuclear fusion} BCSNF theory described in the previous section 6 can be applied to describe the BCSNF process involving hydrogen.

The reaction rates for this hydrogen-metal system can be estimated using Eq. (13). For the one-particle exit reaction channel described by Eq. (14), the nano-explosion (“Bosenova”) mechanism is applicable, producing the excess heat as observed in the experiment described in sub-section 3.1. Furthermore, there will be creation of “super current” of protons due to the moving proton charges created from many nano-explosions. A substantial fraction of them is directed upward in reaction cells, thus generating the predicted proton super currents.

7.4. Super current and super magnetic field

These predicted super currents in turn will create super magnetic field which was observed as described in subsection 3.3. In fact, this mechanism can explain the observed time-correlation between (1) the excess heat generation and (2) the observed generation of super magnetic field of ~1.6 Tesla as described in sub-section 3.3. Therefore this time correlation can be explained by the nano-explosion mechanism as described above. This in turn supports the nano-explosion (“Bosenova”) mechanism for the BCSNF.
The experimental observation of the super magnetic field could serve as a signature of the BCSNF process for future low-energy reaction experiments.

This time correlation may also provide an important possibility that direct partial conversion of excess power generation to electric power may be possible utilizing the super magnetic field."

The take away as follows: BEC energy could be converted from the production of muons to the production of intense magnetic fields and the generation of excess heat through the discharge of a large spark.

Nature of energetic radiation emitted from a metal exposed to H2
Edmund Storms and Brian Scanlan KivaLabs, LLC, Santa Fe, NM

The activated nuclei cannot be Al, Si, O, Ni, Fe, or Cr, because these elements are present in the sample and in construction materials, which show no such activation. Only the mica window of GM #1 contains elements not present anywhere else. These elements
are listed in Table 2 based on EDX analysis. Only C and K are present in the detector and nowhere else, both of which have unstable isotopes. A GM detector having a plastic window rather than one made from mica did not show this activation. Consequently, the likely activated nucleus is K40.

Composition of mica window based on EDX analysis

C - 55 wt. %
O - 16 wt. %
Si - 10 wt. %
Al - 9 wt. %
K- 5 wt. %
Fe - 3 wt. %
Mg, Ti, Na - < 1 wt. %

The radiation being emitted by the sample is proposed to result from a fusion reaction that produces coherent photons. These photons are proposed to react with K40 nuclei in the mica window of the GM to stimulate its decay by beta and gamma emission that is easily detected by the GM. Some of the energetic gamma from this decay can reach GM #2 and cause a slight increase in count, as shown in Fig. 13.

Ed Storms saw muon catalyzed fusion in the window of his GM counter and the effects of that fusion event on energetic gamma recording and transmutation in the mica window of the GM counter.


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  1. Peter
    This is a great Canadian boxer George Chuvalo.

    1. The article says this.
      Ali, the previous year, had boxed Sonny Liston. Accusations swirled that the fight was a pre-arranged farce, that Liston took a swan dive in the first round.
      Ali said in his book that he had never thrown a punch so hard and
      fast that knocked out Liston.
      That the fight was not fixed.

  2. Peter - the Johnson-Mathhey Palladium alloy was developed to filter Hydrogen. It was at the time well-known that repeated absorption/desorption of Hydrogen by pure Palladium caused small cracks in the metal, and that such cracks would allow impurities to pass the Palladium barrier. The Palladium filters therefore had a limited lifetime in use, heated as they were to around 400°C. J-M produced a proprietary alloy (the recipe and process is still secret) that was resistant to such damage and thus extended the lifetime of the Hydrogen filter. This is the alloy that Martin Fleischmann used, since he knew what he wanted. People trying to replicate his experiments did not use this alloy to begin with. Those that actually talked to Martin and got samples of the alloy from him did succeed.

    Interestingly, therefore, the "nuclear quality" Pd is specifically resistant to producing nano-cracks. This snippet of information does seem to be ignored.

    1. Thanks, dear Simon!
      I know this well it is recurrently discussed.
      In 1997 at ASTI I discussed the subject with Martin Fleischmsnn- in the frame of the IMRA France failure.
      However I think now there is no solution known. I hope Hubler will say interesting things at ICCF20


    2. The successful NASA efforts did not use electrolysis, but used a Pd/D2 gas phase system. The "nuclear active material" was a commercial, off-the-shelf palladium hydrogen filtration device. Experiment initially done around 1989, then replicated by them soon after news of Rossi's work.