It is about the death for technology, not science.
As you perhaps remember, I did not liked the idea of
Scottish independence- because I thought it could be imitated in much more
harming ways in Europe and worldwide and this could lead to conflicts and…
blood.
Therefore I wanted to celebrate the NO with a Motto of an
author with a typical old Scottish name. I found:
The death
of what's dead is the birth of what's living. (Arlo Guthrie)
The name is 100% Scottish the author not- he belongs to an
American mixture mirabilis of nationalities and religions.
Being obsessed –but sanely I hope- by LENR I am applying
the Motto to wet PdD – for me it became an axiomatic truth , certainty that
that LENR system is dead for technology, unable to technological progress that
necessarily comprises Reproducibility, Scale up and Control. I stubbornly
continue to claim that because LENR is similar to catalysis, poisons can kill
reproducibility- and any gases except hydrogen isotopes
will act as poisons- inactivating the active sites; therefore deep and relatively
long time degassing is a must for functional LENR systems.
My idea can be proven to be false (and it is justified to
use “stupid” too) only by experiment. A wet PdD experiment giving perfectly
reproducible results will be a stake in heart (much used nowadays in LENR
circles) for my idea.
Now positive gossip is circulated that the Italian ENEA
Group has now a method to achieve 100% reproducibility in this system. My
inerrancy goes to the guillotine?
To put this in context and in perspective:
ICCF 18 organized by
Missouri U. and SKINR had as leading idea of applying the Scientific Method to Understanding Anomalous
Heat Effects: Opportunities and Challenges.”
ICCF 19 with ENEA as
ideological leader will use “New Approach on Material Investigation”
ICCF-18’s way was noble,
scientific 100% but (I think so) idealistic, incomplete and actually
impossible. I know I will make angry some of my best friend, but I consider
that accepting LENR is anomalous is a fatal
error scientifically, psychologically, diplomatically – LENR is aimed to be a
new source of energy not some weird , anarchic, unusual phenomenon. Everybody
who thinks the Building of Science – Physics is finished, we
know what is important- and any surprise coming is not scientific- should make
only routine research and should eliminate immediately any new facts and ideas.
LENR is normal science, prematurely discovered.
ICCF-19 – my unique remark
that approaches would be more effective and realistic because it is about a
broad range of old and new methods- the slogan is smartly open for any method.
It is again based on the Scientific Method. Material changes, transformations
are the key to useful energy- I am convinced that engineering is the key.
Back to the news re 100%
reproducibility –it seems that the ICCF’s leaders are in the frontline of the
war for what I interpret as technological and scientific survival of PdD. They
probably think differently- discovering truth, most advanced research,
progress. Life is complicated, research is more complicated so it is possible
they are right but me too.
There are two seminal
research reports regarding this subject:
Excellent, scientific, high level publications;
what makes them especially enjoyable to me is that they are both in great part
about “morphology” I have published on this Blog; “Technology- on amour” and
“Taxonomy - mon amour:; not yet “Morphology- mon amour” My PhD thesis finished
in 1982 after 11 years of hard work is about the correlation of the morphology
of a polymer- suspension poly-vinyl chloride and its processing ability. This
polymer has an uniquely complex many staged morphology. Morphogenesis is also
captivating.
I will now try to extract the essence of the
first paper by ENEA.
Excess power is obtained as
known – at high loading D/Pd > 0.9) and
good (rather slow) loading speed but only if
materials are showing specific characteristics There were samples (experiments)
with high excess heat, low excess heat and lack of excess heat and the results
can be correlated with some contaminants that seem to have direct or indirect
effect on the excess heat.
Contaminants:
a lot of Pd having as impurities Zn, Zr, Pt, Rh, Bi, Si, Sn gave over 60% reproducibility,
excess power>100% while an other, unhappy lot with Pt, Rh, Sn as impurities
gave only <20% reproducibility and <20% excess heat. No causal
relationship seems possible- other factors of great interests are: grain size,
grain boundary surface morphology.
All
these parameters have one thing in common, they cannot be changed easily in a
difficult to define, describe and measure direction. We can invoke the example
of transistors- success attained by transistors- purification plus smart
doping, but it is not very relevant: the Know How and Know Why of transistors
were more advanced in the 1950s than it is for LENR in 2014.
(If
you disagree please use facts)
What
are the roles or effects of those impurities that depend mainly on the
composition of the source and extraction and purification methods of palladium
but also on the setup-cell
It
is quite difficult to predict or obtain specific trace impurities. Impurities
can be important but their presence is clearly a non-actionable
parameter. In the case of transistors doping with some impurities determined
by theory and experiment helps. This can be tried for the Pd cathodes too, but
will it be effective? The influence of all the parameters tried in this study
seems to be limited, there will be progress but I guess it will have a strongly
asymptotic character, never intersecting the target but stopping at lower
values.
The
last sentence of this fine study sounds demoralizing to me:
By applying the
scientific method future work should be oriented towards the definition of the
effect rather than its demonstration
It is
elegantly formulated but it is definitely not encouraging for a technologist.
The SKINR work is about similar factors and
includes a professional scientific study of a real miracle the cathode 64 of Energetics
(Israel ) 2004 that gave 2500%
excess heat for 17 hours and at repletion 1500% heat excess for 80 hours- a
performance that could be not repeated, unfortunately.
It is possible that the “success” has changed
the parameters that made it possible.
It is a most remarkable study and it analyses
similar factors as the first work- contaminants again, morphological features,
grain orientation but also black spots and inductive resonances.
Admirably professional work however my
impression was that there are other hidden, still unknown parameters with a more decisive
influence over the reproducibility of the excess heat.
For the time given, I don’t think that full
reproducibility will be obtained for wet PdD electrolytic cells.
I think it is impossible …and because I am old
this leads to the following revelation:
Technology is not like science –
e.g. physics. Let’s consider:
"When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong." (Arthur C. Clarke's First Law)
This is NOT true for technology. Why?
The old scientist says “This is impossible. (full point)”
The old technologist says: “This is impossible, (comma)”
and continues “in this way, but must be made possible in an other,
better, smarter way! We have to find it!”
Peter
There
is no serenity prayer for technology- including LENR technology.
I think everybody knows the Serenity Prayer of Reinhold
Niebuhr: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serenity_Prayer
O God, give us the
serenity to accept what cannot be changed,
The courage to change
what can be changed,
And the wisdom to know
the one from the other
In technology everything can be changed, if something cannot
be changed then it has to be changed completely and an other way has to be
used. The wisdom has to be used to change the things well.
Peter
an idea to understand the current level of development of wet cells came by comparin with transistors.
ReplyDeletefirst of all i reoeat that for me we are not yet, until e-cat is proven, in 1950 since we don't understand how it works... we are still in 1930.
but even above that maturity question, wet cell are forme far from being a clear technology.
it remind me the early Galene diode used by dad ... there was diode indeed, but you have to search it with a pin on a rough Galena rock.
what we need is tha planar transistor...
not even the point-contact transistor as what looks like an E-cat
http://www.cjseymour.plus.com/elec/basicfab/fab.htm
most fully is that I've used (as kid from used TV/radio) 75% of the transistors they show, and I did not know they were not even planar...
funny
Dear Alain,
DeleteI think in this case the best is to practice a bit of tautological thinking.
The transistor is the transistor.
HTSC is HTSC.
LENR is LENR (but what is it, really?)
The transistor is understood, controlled and used.
HTSC is controlled (more or less) and used (less)
LENR is still not understood, not controlled and not used.
Great care with analogies, they bite!
Peter
NB: it seems that post was not send by my browser... too bad I answer to it above
ReplyDeleteAbout transistor, LENr is not yet in 1950.
in the 1920s the was anomalous resistance observation in germanium rods.
most of them were ignored by academic.
today it is even difficult to find evidence of those observation hlost in drawer and the official history, like the story of HTSC is that it was invented when it was repeatable.
the story of HTSC is still alive so we can see it was published many years before people think
http://www.mosaicsciencemagazine.org/pdf/m18_03_87_04.pdf
the 1920s transitor is treated as a conspiracy
http://www.n-atlantis.com/Nobel_Prizes_Transistor.htm
I don't say transistor was really invented... it was not reliable, maybe not even working, but the phenomenon deserved more interest, and not simply being ignored by academic.