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I am amazed by Jed Rothwell
Jed's efforts, enthusiasm and fervor in supporting IH's points of view with arguments and methods, which I bet, in retrospective will be shown as deeply damaging for IH's cause. It is now a real performance in solving a problem with an, a priori imposed Solution: E-Cat unproductive, Andrea Rossi deceptive.
Jed wanted to use a standard good flowmeter as a deadly weapon in his anti-Rossi jihad- tons of electronic ink where consumed around his statements and ideas.
Jed latest axion:
Rossi deliberately ran his flow meter in a pipe that was half-full, or less than half full. So it registered the flow rate far too high.
Already a moral puzzle, this adds a psychological enigma. Jed who claims to know everything has told me yesterday that the schematics of the plant explains immediately (as usual any fool can see it, why the pipe going to the instrument is half full or worse. But it is not the time that I can see the schematics.
He is in error and his method is xxxx (censored) because
It is elementary engineering. it ws repeatedly published in many places blogs and it is well known:
the flowmeter has been placed at a level lower than the source and the destination of the water flow, therefore it was at the bottom of a 'U': in such position, due to gravity, the flowmeter is always full. For Penon who has a great industrial experience, including nuclear plants- this is just a simple application of a natural. basic principle.
Jed, do you dare to deny this fact and still insist the pipe was not full, the measurement flawed. PLEASE answer exactly to what I (and implicitly the Readers)
have asked you, forget about historic arguments or what Defkalion has committed
This flowmeter has no reverse flow problem and there is no reverse flow here.
I cannot guess what will happen in this affair on long term. When all this will be over- and settled, perhaps Penon will accept your apologies- sorry but the APATOR flowmeter surely not. By the way, Steve Krivit has accepted your apologies for not being sufficiently- totally, anti-Rossi?
Have you helped, inspired him with his paper- no 1) published today?.
DAILY NEWS
1) Steve Krivit writes:
Cherokee Investment’s Darden Says Rossi’s Claims Are Fraudulent
http://news.newenergytimes.net/2016/08/09/cherokee-investments-darden-says-rossis-claims-are-fraudulent/
Signalled in Russian
5) #LENR Rossi vs. Darden Exhibit 3 - The Six Cylinder Hot #ECAT Unit remains in North Carolina #ActOnClimate
6) Assuring that one of the best informed insiders, #MatsLewan, thinks "it does not look good for #ThomasDarden." #LENR
https://twitter.com/we_cat_global/status/762825753712992256/photo/1
DAILY NOTES
I am amazed by Jed Rothwell
Jed's efforts, enthusiasm and fervor in supporting IH's points of view with arguments and methods, which I bet, in retrospective will be shown as deeply damaging for IH's cause. It is now a real performance in solving a problem with an, a priori imposed Solution: E-Cat unproductive, Andrea Rossi deceptive.
Jed wanted to use a standard good flowmeter as a deadly weapon in his anti-Rossi jihad- tons of electronic ink where consumed around his statements and ideas.
Jed latest axion:
Rossi deliberately ran his flow meter in a pipe that was half-full, or less than half full. So it registered the flow rate far too high.
Already a moral puzzle, this adds a psychological enigma. Jed who claims to know everything has told me yesterday that the schematics of the plant explains immediately (as usual any fool can see it, why the pipe going to the instrument is half full or worse. But it is not the time that I can see the schematics.
He is in error and his method is xxxx (censored) because
It is elementary engineering. it ws repeatedly published in many places blogs and it is well known:
the flowmeter has been placed at a level lower than the source and the destination of the water flow, therefore it was at the bottom of a 'U': in such position, due to gravity, the flowmeter is always full. For Penon who has a great industrial experience, including nuclear plants- this is just a simple application of a natural. basic principle.
Jed, do you dare to deny this fact and still insist the pipe was not full, the measurement flawed. PLEASE answer exactly to what I (and implicitly the Readers)
have asked you, forget about historic arguments or what Defkalion has committed
This flowmeter has no reverse flow problem and there is no reverse flow here.
I cannot guess what will happen in this affair on long term. When all this will be over- and settled, perhaps Penon will accept your apologies- sorry but the APATOR flowmeter surely not. By the way, Steve Krivit has accepted your apologies for not being sufficiently- totally, anti-Rossi?
Have you helped, inspired him with his paper- no 1) published today?.
DAILY NEWS
1) Steve Krivit writes:
Cherokee Investment’s Darden Says Rossi’s Claims Are Fraudulent
http://news.newenergytimes.net/2016/08/09/cherokee-investments-darden-says-rossis-claims-are-fraudulent/
Signalled in Russian
2) Airbus LENR Patent Application Published by US Patent Office
http://www.e-catworld.com/2016/08/09/airbus-lenr-patent-application-published-by-us-patent-office/
3) Sergey Albertovich Salli: "Cold Nuclear Fusion as cooperative optical effect
Салль Сергей Альбертович "Холодный ядерный синтез как кооперативный оптический эффект"
On July 25, 20a6 this paper was presented at Congress 2016 :Fundamental problems of Science nd Technology, Sankt Petersburg. http://lenr.seplm.ru/konferentsii/sall-sergei-albertovich-kholodnyi-yadernyi-sintez-kak-kooperativnyi-opticheskii-effekt
TO MY RUSSIAN READERS PLEASE HELP ME TO OBTAIN THE TEXT OF THE PAPEr FOR TRANSLATION!
4) Siberian physicist have heated plasma up to temperatures sufficient for the working hot fusion reactors
Физики Сибири нагрели плазму до температуры, достаточной для работы термоядерного реактора
http://www.e-catworld.com/2016/08/09/airbus-lenr-patent-application-published-by-us-patent-office/
3) Sergey Albertovich Salli: "Cold Nuclear Fusion as cooperative optical effect
Салль Сергей Альбертович "Холодный ядерный синтез как кооперативный оптический эффект"
On July 25, 20a6 this paper was presented at Congress 2016 :Fundamental problems of Science nd Technology, Sankt Petersburg. http://lenr.seplm.ru/konferentsii/sall-sergei-albertovich-kholodnyi-yadernyi-sintez-kak-kooperativnyi-opticheskii-effekt
TO MY RUSSIAN READERS PLEASE HELP ME TO OBTAIN THE TEXT OF THE PAPEr FOR TRANSLATION!
4) Siberian physicist have heated plasma up to temperatures sufficient for the working hot fusion reactors
Физики Сибири нагрели плазму до температуры, достаточной для работы термоядерного реактора
https://twitter.com/we_cat_global/status/762825753712992256/photo/1
7) Interesting: Wecat.com
http://www.we-cat.com/
8) ECW Poll: Your Thoughts on the E-Cat as a Commercially Viable Technology
http://www.we-cat.com/
8) ECW Poll: Your Thoughts on the E-Cat as a Commercially Viable Technology
http://www.e-catworld.com/2016/08/10/ecw-poll-your-thoughts-on-the-e-cat-as-a-commercially-viable-technology/
LENR IN CONTEXT-1
Must science be testable?:
https://aeon.co/essays/the-string-theory-wars-show-us-how-science-needs-philosophy?utm_source=Aeon+Newsletter&utm_campaign=eba5a1d6e4-Daily_Newsletter_10_August_20168_10_2016&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_411a82e59d-eba5a1d6e4-69012005
LENR IN CONTEXT-2
Implementing network learning by Harold Jarche
http://jarche.com/2016/08/implementing-network-learning/
LENR IN CONTEXT-1
Must science be testable?:
https://aeon.co/essays/the-string-theory-wars-show-us-how-science-needs-philosophy?utm_source=Aeon+Newsletter&utm_campaign=eba5a1d6e4-Daily_Newsletter_10_August_20168_10_2016&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_411a82e59d-eba5a1d6e4-69012005
LENR IN CONTEXT-2
Implementing network learning by Harold Jarche
http://jarche.com/2016/08/implementing-network-learning/
You wrote:
ReplyDeleteIt is elementary engineering. it ws repeatedly published in many places blogs and it is well known:
the flowmeter has been placed at a level lower than the source and the destination of the water flow, therefore it was at the bottom of a 'U': in such position, due to gravity, the flowmeter is always full.
Rossi did say that, but he lied. Rossi often lies.
Can you tell where is the flowmeter placed? On the top?
DeleteProofs! This cannot be secret, you tell or you are lying more than Rossi,
Peter
Without proof I am lying? How does that work? Rossi has given you no proof of anything, so I guess everything he says is a lie.
DeleteYou don't believe me even when I tell you something you can confirm from Rossi in his Lewan interview, and from I.H. in their court filing. No matter how much proof I give you, you never believe anything I say. So I will not bother to give you any proof at all. If you want information, ask Rossi for it. He is the only one you believe, so ask him.
Rossi is saying normal things not that lokking at a pipe you can see it worked half full.
DeleteYou must give proofs for the insane things you say.
peter
JedRothwell: Defkalion set up the meters. But the fraud was not in the meters. It was in the configuration of the flow, and the induced backflow. The meters had nothing to do with it, although they did reveal the problem to McKubre and other sharp observers.
ReplyDeleteUnder heavy cross examination, JedRothwell admitted that the Defkalion meter was not manipulated to perpetrate fraud. But JedRothwell and his minions set up a false equivalence syllogism between the "fraud" Defkalion case and the Rossi flow meter situation. The Rothwell logic is clearly flawed in his FUD construction. Stating it simply, Defkalion's flow meter being good cannot prove that Rossi's flow meter is bad.
What was a fraud was the flow pattern inside the Defkalion reactor. However, Gambarelli's case is based on a fraudulent flow meter setup.
The analysis of McKubre and other sharp observers disproves the accusations made in the Gambarelli meme about an fraudulent Defkalion flow meter setup.
Gambarelli claim that Defkalion refused to allow him to destroy months of setup work by NI engineers was certain proof that Defkalion was protecting a fraud based demo setup. What other reason would Defkalion have to forbid Gambarelli to screw with their meticulously setup demo engineered by National Instruments if it was not the intent by Defkalion to defraud.
This all goes to show how FUD campaigns can be exposed through the patient though stubborn application of logic.
Now Jed is going to reformulate his FUD logic to compensate for the logical inconsistencies that his arguments reveal. We await this show to begin forthwith.
How ironic it is that the group who cry out "fraud" the loudest have subversion and fraud at the heart of their motivation.
Axil wrote: "Under heavy cross examination, JedRothwell admitted that the Defkalion meter was not manipulated to perpetrate fraud."
DeleteThis is 100% pure, unadulterated, horseshit. I was never "cross examined" and I never "admitted" anything. Axil misunderstood what I said, and now he has come up with this absurd straw-man attack. I said backflow induced an error in the flow meter. The equipment purchased from National Instruments had nothing to do with it.
I never made any false equivalence. No one said that Defkalion's flow meter "proves" that Rossi is a fraud. Defkalion showed a flowmeter can be deliberately manipulated to inflate the flow. By coincidence, both Defkalion and Rossi used their flowmeters to commit fraud. They used different methods. Rossi also used other instruments to inflate his COP from 1 up to 50. The fraud committed by Defkalion and Rossi happen to be resemble one another, but one does not "prove" the other.