DAILY NOTE
Perhaps it would be useful to discuss about "the concerned LENR-ist". I am one of "them"
There is only one direction in which we can go, from LENR to LENR+- at a healthy speed.
In ever greater, multipplying, competing groups. Worldwide.
DAILY NEWS
1) Denis Vasilenko publishes experiment report
http://www.e-catworld.com/2015/06/20/denis-vasilenko-publishes-experiment-report/
Good!
2) LENR Energy a Boon for a Microturbine Industry Boom by Gregory Goblw
5) Andrea Rossi writes on his blog:
Andrea Rossi
June 19th, 2015 at 6:20 PM
Mike Hertford:
It is 07.15 p.m. of Friday June 19th, I am inside the computers container, just returned from the container of the reactors.
No remarks, the work is stable. Now I go to make experiments with the Hot Cat. I’m going toward another night to spend inside the factory of our Customer.
This night I want to read well and carefully the new Encyclic of the Pope, that so far I have only read superficially; important books have 3 dimensions: reading a book the first time I understand the length, the second time the height, the third time the deepness.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Andrea Rossi
June 19th, 2015 at 6:03 PM
James Rovnak:
Thank you for the interesting link. Say hello to my friend Dr Stoyan Sarg: I read his very interesting books; he is a Bulgarian nuclear physicist who comes from the Russian traditional school, that eventually approached with positive interest the LENR.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Andrea Rossi
June 19th, 2015 at 3:12 PM
James Rovnak:
I cannot participate to this kind of discussions, because I cannot give further information after what we already published, for obvious reasons of intellectual property defense.
Therefore I cannot answer in positive or in negative to any innuendo related to the operation of the E-Cat , her control systems and related issues. The 24Hz Black Cat has really worried me, because I understood how close your group is to copy our IP !!! ( He,he,he…)
Warm Regards,
A.R.
In ever greater, multipplying, competing groups. Worldwide.
DAILY NEWS
1) Denis Vasilenko publishes experiment report
http://www.e-catworld.com/2015/06/20/denis-vasilenko-publishes-experiment-report/
Good!
2) LENR Energy a Boon for a Microturbine Industry Boom by Gregory Goblw
3) Stubborn, recurent and unknown, who is E-CATRICITY?
4) A statement (yesterday) by Randy Mills to me:
"BlackLight’s technology is based on hydrogen chemistry. BlackLight's technology has nothing to do with LENR or cold fusion by any name. It is not even theoretically possible to cause cold fusion at chemical energies. It does not occur anywhere in Nature and there is no credible evidence to support any such laboratory claims.”
Randy
5) Andrea Rossi writes on his blog:
Andrea Rossi
June 19th, 2015 at 6:20 PM
Mike Hertford:
It is 07.15 p.m. of Friday June 19th, I am inside the computers container, just returned from the container of the reactors.
No remarks, the work is stable. Now I go to make experiments with the Hot Cat. I’m going toward another night to spend inside the factory of our Customer.
This night I want to read well and carefully the new Encyclic of the Pope, that so far I have only read superficially; important books have 3 dimensions: reading a book the first time I understand the length, the second time the height, the third time the deepness.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
June 19th, 2015 at 6:03 PM
James Rovnak:
Thank you for the interesting link. Say hello to my friend Dr Stoyan Sarg: I read his very interesting books; he is a Bulgarian nuclear physicist who comes from the Russian traditional school, that eventually approached with positive interest the LENR.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
June 19th, 2015 at 3:12 PM
James Rovnak:
I cannot participate to this kind of discussions, because I cannot give further information after what we already published, for obvious reasons of intellectual property defense.
Therefore I cannot answer in positive or in negative to any innuendo related to the operation of the E-Cat , her control systems and related issues. The 24Hz Black Cat has really worried me, because I understood how close your group is to copy our IP !!! ( He,he,he…)
Warm Regards,
A.R.
The Suppression of Inconvenient Facts in Physics
http://www.goldenline.pl/grupy/Pozostale/teoria-wzglednosci-musi-odejsc/the-suppression-of-inconvenient-facts-in-physics,3036420
How and why has this historical document re-surfaced now- as Google Alert?
Douglas R.O. Morrison's Cold Fusion Updates
No. 13—11 July 2000
http://newenergytimes.com/v2/archives/DROM/cfu13.shtml
OTHER
A really bright Gapingvoid cartoon:
Regarding: Denis Vasilenko publishes experiment report
ReplyDeleteIt is currently my sincere belief that the E-Cat goes through two phases on its way to stability and controllability as follows: a startup phase and a stable phase.
During the startup phase, the powered reactor (mouse) is in danger of a blowout due to the appearance of a hot spot at some arbitrary position in the fuel load of the reactor. This hot spot will reach very high temperatures and melt through the core and release the hydrogen envelope.
Most alumina shell reactors will be destroyed in the startup phase by a hot spot as the reactor struggles to enter the stable phase. This blowout has happened to the Denis Vasilenko experiment.
Unless the shell of the reactor is strong enough to resist the power of this hot spot, the experiment will result in reactor destruction. Most alumina reactor tests will end in this way as the hot spot destroys the reactor.
But sometimes by chance, the alumina reactor gets through this startup phase and enters the stable phase. During this phase, hot spots cease to be a problem. For the alumina reactor, this stable condition is rare and only happens by chance. Out of all the experiments that Parkhomov has performed, his experiments have only resulted in a stable reactor but a few times.
In the stable phase, blowout does not occur. However, meltdown can occur if the temperature of the reactor is pushed to high. Meltdown is not a blowout because a Meltdown continues even after the shell of the reactor has been destroyed. A meltdown occurs as a global over heating event throughout the entire volume of the core.
A meltdown will not occur during the startup phase because a phase transition into stability has not occurred. The goal of an alumina reactor experiment is to get through the startup phase and enter the stability phase. Because of the fragility of the alumina shell, the stability phase is seldom achieved.
To aid in getting through the startup phase, I suggest using a more robust reactor shell to contain the power of the hot spot or somehow reinforce the alumina tube with metal containment.
Let us really put some theory into this idea and try to explain it simply.
DeleteWhen the reactor reaches a stable thermal condition after it has completely started up, all the dipoles vibrate together as driven by the isothermal(even) heat. This even heat causes the dipoles to move together in the dame way. It is like a room full of dancers moving to the same tune. When this happens, a state of super radiance sets in.
In quantum optics, superradiance is a phenomenon that occurs when a group of N emitters, such as excited atoms in a dipole motion, interact with a common light field. heat is a common light field. If the wavelength of the light is much greater than the separation of the emitters, then the emitters interact with the light in a collective and coherent fashion. The wavelength of infrared light is between 700 nm – 1 mm. The dipoles are spaced together closer than that. This causes the group to emit light as a high intensity pulse (with rate ∝ N2). This is a surprising result, drastically different from the expected exponential decay (with rate ∝ N) of a group of independent atoms (as in spontaneous emission). Superradiance has since been demonstrated in a wide variety of physical and chemical systems, such as quantum dot arrays and J-aggregates.[ The effect has recently been used to produce a polariton superradiant laser.
To simplify all the dipoles acted like a single huge dipole. The input power that comes into the reactor feeds all the dipoles equally. All the nuclear energy that the dipoles produce is shared equally among all the dipoles. The dipoles release the same amount of heat like there was a single huge dipole instead of many individual dipoles performing the same dance step.
Let us really put some theory into this idea and try to explain it simply.
DeleteWhen the reactor reaches a stable thermal condition after it has completely started up, all the dipoles vibrate together as driven by the isothermal(even) heat. This even heat causes the dipoles to move together in the dame way. It is like a room full of dancers moving to the same tune. When this happens, a state of super radiance sets in.
In quantum optics, superradiance is a phenomenon that occurs when a group of N emitters, such as excited atoms in a dipole motion, interact with a common light field. heat is a common light field. If the wavelength of the light is much greater than the separation of the emitters, then the emitters interact with the light in a collective and coherent fashion. The wavelength of infrared light is between 700 nm – 1 mm. The dipoles are spaced together closer than that. This causes the group to emit light as a high intensity pulse (with rate ∝ N2). This is a surprising result, drastically different from the expected exponential decay (with rate ∝ N) of a group of independent atoms (as in spontaneous emission). Superradiance has since been demonstrated in a wide variety of physical and chemical systems, such as quantum dot arrays and J-aggregates.[ The effect has recently been used to produce a polariton superradiant laser.
To simplify all the dipoles acted like a single huge dipole. The input power that comes into the reactor feeds all the dipoles equally. All the nuclear energy that the dipoles produce is shared equally among all the dipoles. The dipoles release the same amount of heat like there was a single huge dipole instead of many individual dipoles performing the same dance step.
Yes beautifully executed test by Denis
ReplyDeleteJames Andrew Rovnak • 13 minutes ago
Hold on, this is waiting to be approved by E-Cat World.
A great work of engineering art by Denis; thoroughly enjoyed his test, beautiful glowing 15 second oscillations in the night air; his attention to detail & dialog on MFMP - just great. Axil did not Denis's fuzzy logic controller run into a limit cycle as (ssm) built up & eventually took his fuel element. The controller would not take him to 1200 C set point that night & he had no manual control available to him to stop the limit cycle. Fuzzy logic controllers have trouble with trying to get to the same temperature when two different power inputs will put you there, period. Not smart enough to figure out where it wants to go with what power to use, No? Denis did beautifully demonstrate the difference in fueled vs un-fueled element temperature build up as (ssm) started to accumulate in his fuel element. Maybe he should have just backed down to a lower set point for a long dwell period to let positive proof of ash build up. The micro burst of LENR story still holds secrets from us, leading to just reasoned speculation right now.
The comment by Mills is really funny. There is practically no independent confirmation of his hydrino work, but the heat/helium correlation in cold fusion (conclusive evidence) is widely confirmed, see http://www.currentscience.ac.in/Volumes/108/04/0574.pdf
ReplyDeleteSo much for reliance on theory. Blacklight has been throwing money at Mills' theory for a very long time. Any serious results independently confirmed?
Peter some discussions on control of Hot E-Cats today of interest
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Mats002 James Andrew Rovnak • 8 hours ago
I think in term of control, different algoritm are needed at different stages of the process, given that our speculations are correct, I see several stages:
a) startup to break LiAlH4 and start loading H into Ni
b) optimize loading without start of codeposition of nanoparticles
c) very careful (slow) start codeposition, make LENR go without runaway
d) hold balance in this position until resonance effect begin
e) drop input heat, let ssm do it's job
f) when ssm loose balance, go to c) and iterate
What signals do we need to act on?
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Hold on, this is waiting to be approved by E-Cat World.
Yes some great ideas Mats002. Sweeping sine wave at a number of those changing conditions would tell a good controls engineer just what to do. A controls engineer has to know almost nothing about a process internal detail, just it response to sine wave small / large signal inputs to completely identify process in gain & phase space (open loop bode plot) to provide adequate control in that range for a highly non linear process ie heat loss Q proportional to fourth power radiant heat loss & ssm operation). An operating E-Cat can be tricked into identifying itself by reasoned input & looking at her response in temperatures.
I have not reviewed the information provided as MFMP discussion,I have only looked at the report issued by Vasilenko and his spreadsheet linked. There is no data showing there supporting that there was LENR heat, and I infer from the data give that there was no such heat. The temperature curves support the hypothesis that the no-fuel reactor cooled at faster rate than the fueled reactor, perhaps due to a different method of physical support. The photo of the reactor "about to fail" shows that the heating coils are much hotter than the thermocouple; this is a standard fault of the Parkhomov design.
ReplyDeleteWere there LENR, there would be an uptick in reactor temperature when the necessary reactor temperature is reached. Not the even difference shown in the plot. Axil's hypothesis of a sudden overwhelming excess heat seems common. There is no evidence for it. Presumably the thermocouple would show this, at least a little. If not, the rate of recording of data must be increased. Axil's hypothesis, if true, would be easy to show, with appropriate control experiments. Using an integrated heater and test cell is asking for trouble. Rather, use a tube furnace that heats the entire interior evenly, and then monitor heat flow (similarly to Jiang, only with high-temperature thermocouples). Approach critical temperatures slowly at first. In later testing, deliberately attempt to create runaway, once more stable conditions are understood.
The claims that the Vasilenko experiment was well-designed and that it shows LENR are way over-optimistic, not founded in sober analysis. It is impossible to knowt there was *no* XP, because it might be small enough to hide in the data, but the data presented shows none. Instead, the heater failure is used to infer that temperature reached 1300 C., whereas that temperature might be normal; the thermocouples, as place, and as can be seen in the photo, do not reach the temperature of the heater coils, neither in the fueled cell, nor in the unfueled. However, the fueled cell was generally hotter than the unfueled, but that effect is stable and arises at low temperatures. No LENR is demonstrated here.
Well, it must be that Mills or Rossi are liars because both of their claims and comments can't be true. Maybe they're both liars. I lean to that conclusion.
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