Thursday, June 18, 2015


Again, a bit better than during the last two days however positive surprises necessary to reinvigorate the interest for LENR.


1) ETIAM, the mystery Finish company (mystery because we don't know if they imagine, know or even do LENR) has now an US Patent Application. see it here:

Thermal-energy producing system and method

PJ Soininen - US Patent 20,150,162,104, 2015

System and method for producing thermal energy is based on a very large number of nanoscale particle accelerators in a volume accelerating electrons and hydrogen ions at very high local electric fields. Nanoscale particle accelerators comprise a dielectric material possessing electric polarizability and a metallic material capable of forming an interstitial and/or electrically conductive metal hydride and capable of enhancing the local electric field by the geometry and/or by the sufficiently small dimensions of the said metallic material. Low to medium strength local electric fields are utilized for the generation of Rydberg matter and inverted Rydberg matter in the presence of a material capable of forming and storing Rydberg atoms. Destabilization of Rydberg matter and inverted Rydberg matter leads to solid state physical reactions that release energy

The wording is very similar to Defkalion's publications, and we have already seen the  WO form of this patent:
If you look to the patent application, the inventor, Pekka Juha Soininen has an US address; Lahn, Florida (?)

“Role of Lithium in LENR – Part three
Electroinduced Cavitation in liquid Lithium”

3) E-Cat vs Symphony – Who Wins?

Why "versus"- these two companies are actually not competing and afre promoting very different technical solutions? We still have not direct communication line
 with Symphony!
4) Report: investor makes big return with domain name

5) Rossi says:

Andrea Rossi
June 18th, 2015 at 8:15 AM

Drew G.:
I hope we will have not to change the charge for all the duration of the 350 operative days. This is one of the data we are waiting for.
Warm Regards,
Andrea Rossi
June 18th, 2015 at 8:13 AM

Dan C.:
Obviously it was not me to write that the E-Cat works at any frequency: this is an issue I cannot comment. What is important is that the E-Cat purrs; problem is when she grrrrs.
Warm Regards,

6) Report of Andrei Petrovich Krischanovich about the successful experiment.

We, with Sergey Michailovich have obtained anomalous thermal flares from titanium tablets at the addition of hydrogen. At the given temperatures of 580C and higher the sorption of hydrogen is impossible due to the physical properties of the titanium but the flares take place! This proves once again the non-chemical nature of the heat release. At the addition of hydrogen takes place the heat increase and is maintained for up to 14 minutes; the pressure remains constant, no hydrogen soption occurs. Then the temperature goes back exponentially to the initial value of equilibrium.
Now we are almost ready with our quartz reactor and we will perform the same experiment with nickel sieve. See please the video. [15:45:57]
Andrei Petrovich, Zaporozhe 


Rossi said:

Andrea Rossi
June 16th, 2015 at 7:31 PM
Looking at the derivatives I would answer more like popcorns, looking at the integral I would say piece of charcoal.
Warm Regards,
Sibilla Cumana

IMHO, this response from Rossi means that LENR occurs in the E Cat as many powerful nanobursts. Each LENR reaction is discrete. There are many individual powerful bursts. When the reaction is looked at in derivatives, many discrete events are seen.

When the reaction is looked at as an integral, these many individual events occur at a constantly decreasing rate and on the average produces a smooth production of energy over a extended time frame that is at a maximum at the start but fades over time.

When many individual reactors are controlled in a sequence where the initial burst from the reaction drives the next reactor to produce a burst delayed in time and so on around in a cycle of maximum to minimum reaction intensity over many reactors, a relatively constant amount of power can be produced.

The same cyclic process can turn exploding gasoline in the cylinders of an auto engine into constant power .

To this , Allan Kiik has asked:

So, if Rossi is telling the truth, does this put down the ideas about any kind of quantum condensate or spin-glass forming as the basis of the reaction? 


Believe It Or Not, Most Published Research Findings Are Probably False

What do I believe? This statement is just a damned Pareto Truth  written to attarct readers

Memorize this rule for solving difficult data science problems


  1. Peter loved question of one Dan C at Andrea's Blog today

    Andrea, like Dan C’s comment on the 27 hertz. Would like to see sweeping sine wave power input to MFMP tests at all temperature hold to see if we can tickle the Cat into a courageous Meow ! Just a thought as I read his query & your response. The World must learn more about what excite your Hot E-Cat. I myself can’t wait to read the direction to cooperation of the commercial Hot E-Cat with your newly designed adaptive control system, which I know you are proud of!

    Every control engineer like to study the single input single output bode plots of new processes so he can think about what the break points & resonances are telling him about the internals of such systems even though they are not completely understood clearly.


    My conjecture for the day I would like to share with You & Dan C

    Have a nice day Andrea & listen to the engineering music about us, No?

  2. Regarding:”To this , Allan Kiik has asked:

    So, if Rossi is telling the truth, does this put down the ideas about any kind of quantum condensate or spin-glass forming as the basis of the reaction”?

    In his blog comments, Rossi tells us that the “Mouse” and the “Cat” are two separate fueled modules. Only the mouse receives input power. Rossi also tells us that the mouse stimulates the Cat. The Cat produces almost all of the power since the Mouse has a COP of just over 1.

    The question that is central to this method of stimulation is as follows: “How does the Mouse stimulate the Cat”. I would dearly like to see an experiment designed to answer this question. I feel that there is new physics involved in this stimulative process.

    I believe that the “mouse” is producing a “quantum condensate” that somehow is affecting and stimulating the Cat possibly though the transfer of coherent heat energy. These energtic bursts in power are at the very core of Rossi’s control problem. The Rossi reactor module that receives input power seems to be susceptible to extremely energetic bursts in the LENR reaction produced by discontinuities in the AC current that drives the input heater.

    Open source replicators have seen these bursts blowout their reactors when these reactors have a full fuel load. However, when the fuel load is significantly reduced to 1/3 of the standard fuel load, the bursts seen are contained by the structure of the reactor. It seems that the way power is applied to the reactor affects how the LENR reaction behaves.

    Rossi has found a way to overcome this problematic blowout behavior. When the Cat is stimulated by the mouse, the LENR reactor does not burst and a blowout does not happen. The Mouse acts as a kind of stimulation filter to mellow the effects of the EMF stimulation. It may be that the heat produced by the mouse is coherent. Heat applied by a flame is most probably ineffective in stimulating the LENR reaction.

    I am interested in seeing how this Mouse and Cat stimulation process works and therefore hope that an experiment is configured to explore this issue.


    Could the mouse be a poloriton laser? A highly efferent laser has been developed that produces coherent light that uses electricity as a stimulant. In his Mouse, has Rossi developed a deep infrared polariton laser driven by EMF? At one time Rossi was developing a natural gas driven reactor where natural gas combustion produced heat for his reactor. But that design did not work. The heat produced by the gas was not coherent.

    The Hot cat reactor has an alumina shell that is transparent to infrared light in the LENR reactive range. Could the Mouse be producing light that gets through the alumina shell of the Cat to stimulate the Cat?

    The light produced by the Mouse can be tested for coherence by using Spectroscopy. If the line produced by the light is monochomatic, that is, produces a single sharp line in the spectrograph, the infrared light is coherent.

  4. Can you discuss what some of the challenges are in going to a gas-fueled eCat compared to an electricity heated eCat?

    For example:

    1. The difference in time constant between the application and removal of heat between electric heating and flame?
    2. The difference in heat transfer for gas-fired versus direct electric windings?
    3. The difficulty in providing adequate ventilation for gas-fired system (incoming air)?
    4. The difficulty in exhausting the exhaust products?
    5. The energy efficiency of gas-fired (how much energy goes up the chimney)?

    Rossi responded:

    None of them.
    The problem is deeper and has its roots in the core of the know how. It is not a problem of heat exchange or of heat conservation. Otherwise, it could have been already resolved.

  5. E-Cat vs Symphony – Who Wins?
    Hydrino! It works in "All The Space".