MOTTO
DAILY NOTES
a) Improving the context of LENR
I want to discuss today with you about HOW to create a better context, a more favorable environment for LENR.
We are forced to accept that the present context/environment of LENR is unfavorable- conceptual chaos. overwhelming complexity and diversity real and historically created outer and inner conflicts, humiliating uncertainty, search for the unique and global solution, myth of the "key"
Paradoxically this is now combined with or even grafted on the reality of an unique solution- so much, too much depends now on the Report of the 1MW plant's year long test- the field has no other cards of high value to play out.
What is the best LENR classic has today? Perhaps the three advanced PdD groups-
ENEA, SKINR/Missouri U, CEES/Texas U. about which we do not know much- but even in my boldest dreams I do not hope they will discover something fundamental
about how LENR works or that they will obtain 1000% reproducibility at tens of watts level excess heat.
Progress is difficult in a context of an immiscible blend of fragment's of incompatible truths. Technology first can create an healthier context than scientism-at-any-price.
We must create a competitional context for the Rossi technology
b) An essay by Edmund Storms
Ed was inspired by this paper given in Ego Out
Beyond Experiment: Why the scientific method may be old hat
http://www.math.columbia.edu/~ woit/wordpress/
He wrote:
(The above paper) is interesting, although it does not apply directly to LENR. It nevertheless, reveals a basic flaw in how physics evaluates the descriptions of reality, i.e. theory. In conventional science, a theory is evaluated by determining whether it can be falsified. I suggest this is the wrong criteria because most ideas can not be falsified. For example, can the claim for the Einstein concept of relativity be falsified? The answer is no. The idea is accepted because it allows real events to be related to other real events. The idea allows progress based on predictions that are found to be true. Nothing is falsified. The concept is accepted because it is useful, not because it is real or complete. Nothing more is needed. In fact, some aspects of the concept clearly are wrong because they conflict with what can be observed.
My answers and questions to Ed's essay
I am very grateful to Ed for this sincere and condensed writing, it helps me to understand the approach of the essential LENR problem. For now it is sadly obvious that nothing scientific- falsifying, the brightest theory ever, the most convincing lab experiment repeatable at will- nothing, except an commercial product and technology
can redo LENR the lost prestige and place in mainstream science.
Ed states:
LENR, the phenomenon is clearly real, the energy has the potential to improve life, and the theories help in advancing the understanding and application.
I agree that the phenomenon is real- however the rest of the phrase has to be demonstrated; is it surely true for the first discovered form of CF/LENR? Can the 007 histogram extended- and how much? It is a great difference between to exist and to live, to be able to grow.
He also asks with discontent:
Why is agreement about the most basic aspects of the phenomenon not obtained, even in the field itself?
I can answer here: a deeply wicked problem is difficult per se, however its degree of difficulty is enhanced by the vision it creates in the minds of the solver-in-spe- false ireal and misleading. I think Ed undervalues the absolute difficulty of the LENR problem due to complexity, diversity, strangeness, novelty, dynamicity, multiplicity,extent, changes and so on. He thinks we can have a sketch of a solution based on the great but also narrow and disappointing PdD experience. There must be a simple. logical explanation, solution way. This can be true- or not. If the problem is really wicked, if we really know few things of a lot, then . Ed's nano-crack-Hydroton has few traits of a conqueror, game changer theory. Synergy in active sites is a basic principle with applications much beyond LENR.
This is true in part- but why?
The field is dominated by people who are ignorant of what is known about LENR, are not trained in general science, and cannot agree about anything.
I doubt that the field is dominated by some group or individuals today- it is a disturbing cognitive anarchy there; I am trying to obtain agreement for some working principles first- not in a successful way.
But, dear Ed suppose rationality wins and from tomorrow knowledgeable people replace the ignorants and a general agreement is established around what you wish.
Can you predict, describe what will happen then?
Thank you!
DAILY NEWS
1) Rossi: E-Cat X Can Produce Electricity and No Heat
http://www.e-catworld.com/2016/02/28/rossi-e-cat-x-can-produce-electricity-and-no-heat/
2) The E-Cat: Unlimited LENR Power For The Future [Kindle Edition] By Hank Mills
http://www.prairietr.com/the-e-cat-unlimited-lenr-power-for-the-future-jutnjpo.pdf
3) In Russian: What is inside Andrea Rossi's black box?http://bolshoyforum.com/forum/index.php?topic=473483.msg6333268#msg6333268
4) The expected Les Echos paper cold fusion puts physics on fire
La « fusion froide » enflamme la physique
9) Aetheric technology of the over-unity autonomous energy sources of energy including that of A. Rossi (videoreport of Yaroslav Petrovich Starukhin)
"Эфирные технологии: сверхединичные автономные источники энергии, в т.ч. и Андреа Росси" (видеообзор Старухина Ярослава Петровича)
Dear Andrea Rossi!
Will E-cat in Sweden be buildt in 1 MW- containers or in 250 kW units or smaller?
I have read about small X-rays in E-cat. Is that only when you start it?
Best regards
Nils Fryklund
Andrea Rossi
February 28, 2016 at 4:11 PM
Nils Fryklund:
1- I think 1000, 250 and 20 will be the baseline.
To be elaborate and F9.
Warm Regards
A.R.
13) Rossi: Small E-Cat Prototype Units are 100 W Called ‘Quarks’
DAILY NOTES
a) Improving the context of LENR
I want to discuss today with you about HOW to create a better context, a more favorable environment for LENR.
We are forced to accept that the present context/environment of LENR is unfavorable- conceptual chaos. overwhelming complexity and diversity real and historically created outer and inner conflicts, humiliating uncertainty, search for the unique and global solution, myth of the "key"
Paradoxically this is now combined with or even grafted on the reality of an unique solution- so much, too much depends now on the Report of the 1MW plant's year long test- the field has no other cards of high value to play out.
What is the best LENR classic has today? Perhaps the three advanced PdD groups-
ENEA, SKINR/Missouri U, CEES/Texas U. about which we do not know much- but even in my boldest dreams I do not hope they will discover something fundamental
about how LENR works or that they will obtain 1000% reproducibility at tens of watts level excess heat.
Progress is difficult in a context of an immiscible blend of fragment's of incompatible truths. Technology first can create an healthier context than scientism-at-any-price.
We must create a competitional context for the Rossi technology
b) An essay by Edmund Storms
Ed was inspired by this paper given in Ego Out
Beyond Experiment: Why the scientific method may be old hat
http://www.math.columbia.edu/~
He wrote:
(The above paper) is interesting, although it does not apply directly to LENR. It nevertheless, reveals a basic flaw in how physics evaluates the descriptions of reality, i.e. theory. In conventional science, a theory is evaluated by determining whether it can be falsified. I suggest this is the wrong criteria because most ideas can not be falsified. For example, can the claim for the Einstein concept of relativity be falsified? The answer is no. The idea is accepted because it allows real events to be related to other real events. The idea allows progress based on predictions that are found to be true. Nothing is falsified. The concept is accepted because it is useful, not because it is real or complete. Nothing more is needed. In fact, some aspects of the concept clearly are wrong because they conflict with what can be observed.
The concept we call LENR and the resulting explanations can not be falsified. Such a criteria is pointless. The important criteria is whether the ideas and concepts are useful in understanding Nature and improving life.
In the case of LENR, the phenomenon is clearly real, the energy has the potential to improve life, and the theories help in advancing the understanding and application. So, why is the claim rejected? Why is agreement about the most basic aspects of the phenomenon not obtained, even in the field itself? What criteria can we agree is important and can we agree on the consequence of its application?
I expect a conventional scientist who dares to step into the swamp that is LENR comes away with the same impression. The field is dominated by people who are ignorant of what is known about LENR, are not trained in general science, and cannot agree about anything. The rational discussions are drowned out and the sources of factual information are not acknowledged in the discussions. They go away with a rational opinion that this field is not science. And now Rossi reinforces this opinion.
I predict that any response to this description will demonstrate once again this lack of agreement. This is not to say that agreement is required or expected about everything. Agreement is only required about basic concepts on which a logical structure can be built. That agreement is not present in this field. If you disagree, you prove my point.
I am very grateful to Ed for this sincere and condensed writing, it helps me to understand the approach of the essential LENR problem. For now it is sadly obvious that nothing scientific- falsifying, the brightest theory ever, the most convincing lab experiment repeatable at will- nothing, except an commercial product and technology
can redo LENR the lost prestige and place in mainstream science.
Ed states:
LENR, the phenomenon is clearly real, the energy has the potential to improve life, and the theories help in advancing the understanding and application.
I agree that the phenomenon is real- however the rest of the phrase has to be demonstrated; is it surely true for the first discovered form of CF/LENR? Can the 007 histogram extended- and how much? It is a great difference between to exist and to live, to be able to grow.
He also asks with discontent:
Why is agreement about the most basic aspects of the phenomenon not obtained, even in the field itself?
I can answer here: a deeply wicked problem is difficult per se, however its degree of difficulty is enhanced by the vision it creates in the minds of the solver-in-spe- false ireal and misleading. I think Ed undervalues the absolute difficulty of the LENR problem due to complexity, diversity, strangeness, novelty, dynamicity, multiplicity,extent, changes and so on. He thinks we can have a sketch of a solution based on the great but also narrow and disappointing PdD experience. There must be a simple. logical explanation, solution way. This can be true- or not. If the problem is really wicked, if we really know few things of a lot, then . Ed's nano-crack-Hydroton has few traits of a conqueror, game changer theory. Synergy in active sites is a basic principle with applications much beyond LENR.
This is true in part- but why?
The field is dominated by people who are ignorant of what is known about LENR, are not trained in general science, and cannot agree about anything.
I doubt that the field is dominated by some group or individuals today- it is a disturbing cognitive anarchy there; I am trying to obtain agreement for some working principles first- not in a successful way.
But, dear Ed suppose rationality wins and from tomorrow knowledgeable people replace the ignorants and a general agreement is established around what you wish.
Can you predict, describe what will happen then?
Thank you!
DAILY NEWS
1) Rossi: E-Cat X Can Produce Electricity and No Heat
http://www.e-catworld.com/2016/02/28/rossi-e-cat-x-can-produce-electricity-and-no-heat/
2) The E-Cat: Unlimited LENR Power For The Future [Kindle Edition] By Hank Mills
http://www.prairietr.com/the-e-cat-unlimited-lenr-power-for-the-future-jutnjpo.pdf
3) In Russian: What is inside Andrea Rossi's black box?http://bolshoyforum.com/forum/index.php?topic=473483.msg6333268#msg6333268
4) The expected Les Echos paper cold fusion puts physics on fire
La « fusion froide » enflamme la physique
http://www.lesechos.fr/idees-debats/sciences-prospective/021687191342-la-fusion-froide-enflamme-la-physique-1203524.php?Ehp3mGzbWYa3Dbmx.99
On the ХТЯ и ШМ page today:
5) The ETIAM company(Finland) has published a new dicument "Some data about tjhe testing system of LENR
Фирма Etiam (Финляндия) опубликовала новый документ под названием "Некоторые данные тестовой системы LENR"
http://lenr.seplm.ru/novosti/etiam-opublikovala-novyi-dokument-pod-nazvaniem-nekotorye-dannye-testovoi-sistemy-lenr
On the ХТЯ и ШМ page today:
Фирма Etiam (Финляндия) опубликовала новый документ под названием "Некоторые данные тестовой системы LENR"
http://lenr.seplm.ru/novosti/etiam-opublikovala-novyi-dokument-pod-nazvaniem-nekotorye-dannye-testovoi-sistemy-lenr
Links to a E-Cat World paper
6) The paper of Yu. N. Bazhutov on Rossi's"Journal of Nuclear Physics
Статья Ю.Н. Бажутова в журнале А. Росси "Journal of Nuclear Physics"
http://lenr.seplm.ru/articles/statya-yun-bazhutova-v-zhurnale-a-rossi-journal-of-nuclear-physics
7) Bob Greenyear about the experiments of MFMP- video
Боб Гринье об эксперименте MFMP
http://lenr.seplm.ru/novosti/bob-grine-ob-eksperimente-mfmp
8) Videoreport of A.B. Shestopaloiv about Aether and Erzions
Статья Ю.Н. Бажутова в журнале А. Росси "Journal of Nuclear Physics"
http://lenr.seplm.ru/articles/statya-yun-bazhutova-v-zhurnale-a-rossi-journal-of-nuclear-physics
7) Bob Greenyear about the experiments of MFMP- video
Боб Гринье об эксперименте MFMP
http://lenr.seplm.ru/novosti/bob-grine-ob-eksperimente-mfmp
8) Videoreport of A.B. Shestopaloiv about Aether and Erzions
9) Aetheric technology of the over-unity autonomous energy sources of energy including that of A. Rossi (videoreport of Yaroslav Petrovich Starukhin)
"Эфирные технологии: сверхединичные автономные источники энергии, в т.ч. и Андреа Росси" (видеообзор Старухина Ярослава Петровича)
Further...
10) What is LookingForHeat.Com
11) Cold fusion: Hot water boilers
12) From Andrea Rossi's Blog
Nils Fryklund
February 28, 2016 at 3:42 PMDear Andrea Rossi!
Will E-cat in Sweden be buildt in 1 MW- containers or in 250 kW units or smaller?
I have read about small X-rays in E-cat. Is that only when you start it?
Best regards
Nils Fryklund
Andrea Rossi
February 28, 2016 at 4:11 PM
Nils Fryklund:
1- I think 1000, 250 and 20 will be the baseline.
To be elaborate and F9.
Warm Regards
A.R.
http://www.e-catworld.com/2016/02/29/rossi-small-e-cat-prototype-units-are-100-w-called-quarks/
14) ECat-X: la nuova versione dell'ECat produce direttamente energia elettrica.
http://www.ecatnews.it/2016/02/ecat-x-la-nuova-versione-dellecat.html
16) Last hour news from the LENR Forum:
the chinese researcher Songsheng-Jiang has published a new report about an advanced LENR experiment he conducted in december 2015. He got 450 W excess heat for 120 minutes without any input power (self sustain). Read more here:
https://www.lenr-forum.com/ forum/index.php/Thread/2824- Pr-Songsheng-Jiang-publish-a- report-on-newer-experiments- done-in-December-2015/
17) This was published a few weeks ago but I have received it only now from a friend
Top lobbying group in historic green energy U-turn
15) About the francophone LENR Symposium- starts March 18, 2016
https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/index.php/Thread/2412-Symposium-Francophone-RNBE-2016/?postID=14533#post14533
https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/index.php/Thread/2412-Symposium-Francophone-RNBE-2016/?postID=14533#post14533
16) Last hour news from the LENR Forum:
the chinese researcher Songsheng-Jiang has published a new report about an advanced LENR experiment he conducted in december 2015. He got 450 W excess heat for 120 minutes without any input power (self sustain). Read more here:
https://www.lenr-forum.com/
17) This was published a few weeks ago but I have received it only now from a friend
DON'T MENTION COLD FUSION
Far, far away from the galaxy of mainstream
nuclear fusion, a small but dedicated band of
rebels is still devoted to the heresy of cold
fusion. The idea that nuclear fusion reactions
actually don't need huge temperatures or big
kit to happen has no agreed theory to back it
up, and has had a bad rep since ultimately
unreproducible claims were made back in the
198Os. But rebranded as "low energy nuclear
reactions" (LENR), it lives on.
Perhaps the loudest of the mavericks is
ltalian enqineerAndrea Rossi. who savs he
-
has been operating his "E-Caf'cold fusion
reactors, with a fuel of nickel powder and
hydrogen, since 2011, Now in partnership
with US company lndustrial Heat, Rossi
claims to be operating a 1-megawatt reactor
producing heat for a secret customer in the
US for a one-year trial. Russian researcher
Alexander Parkhomov and others have, they
say, reverse-en gineered the nickel-hydrogen
reaction in the E-Cat and generated heatfrom
an unknown reaction, morethan could be
produced by any chemical process,
Rossi hasjust been granted a US patent
for the E-Cat technology, and theJapanese
government has restarted funding for LENR
research. apparently on the basis of work by
Toyota and Mitsubishi. Few researchers give
the results much credence, but they have
attracted the attention of serious industrial
players outside Japan, too. Airbus is one of the
few willing to make a public show of interest,
hosting a conference on low energy nuclear
reactions in Toulouse, France, last October.
New Scientist l 30January 2016
LENR IN CONTEXT-2
Engineering: more than math and science
LENR IN CONTEXT-2
Engineering: more than math and science
LENR not mentioned explicitly
Ed Storms is very right about one thing he says, that is in the description of the "swamp" of science. What Ed demurs from saying is that the worst "swamp" behaviour of all is within the cold fusion/lenr field itself. There endless insider backstabbing and honey pot trap setting so as to block those in the field making headway has been the most troublesome of all in delaying progress in the field.
ReplyDeleteRossi, Mills and Godes keep the swamp thriving in a Kafkaesque manner
ReplyDeleteWorst of all swamp creatures is McKubre
ReplyDeleteMay be LENR is physics where t is not a simple variable...
ReplyDeleteMay be LENR is physics where t is not a simple variable...
ReplyDeleteThere is another path to understanding LENR. That path is found in the stars. Here follows a summation of that route to LENR understanding by Prof. Pierre-Marie Robitaille
ReplyDeleteNow that liquid metallic hydrogen has been advanced as a
solar building block, it is likely
that opposition will be raised, for many will foresee unsettling
changes in astronomy. A liquid Sun brings into question
our understanding of nearly every facet of this science:
from stellar structure and evolution, the existence of black
holes, the primordial atom, dark energy, and
dark matter. It is not easy to abandon familiar ideas and
begin anew.
However, some scientists will realize that a liquid metallic
hydrogen model of the Sun, not only opens new avenues,
but it also unifies much of human knowledge into a cohesive
and elegant framework. A liquid metallic Sun invites astronomy
to revisit the days of Kirchhoff and Stewart, and
to recall the powerful lessons learned from studying the thermal
emission of materials. It emphasizes that our telescopes
observe structural realities and not illusions.
In recognizing the full character of these structures, all of the
great solar astronomers from Galileo, to Secchi, to
Hale are honored. These observers knew that solar structures
(granules, sunspots, pores, flares, prominences, etc. . . )
were manifesting something profound about nature.
For astrophysicists, the Sun imparts lessons which may
well have direct applications for mankind. For instance, the
solar body holds the key to fusion. If the Sun is made from
condensed matter, then our experiments should focus on
this state. Sunspots may also guard the secret to synthesizing
metallic hydrogen on Earth. If sunspots are truly metallic
, as reflected by their magnetic fields, then attempts
to form liquid metallic hydrogen on Earth might
benefit from the presence of magnetic fields. Our analysis
of the photospheric constitution and the continuous thermal
spectrum should be trying to tell us something about liquids
and their long range order.
And once again you indulge in egregious bashing of the PdD approach. The problem in LENR is not PdD or NiH, it is dirty science politics done by incompetent physicists (if they were competent, they would be in a lab, not functioning as bureaucrats) that have (and are still) preventing ANY flow of funding to LENR research.
ReplyDeleteLENR doesn't need "1000% reproducibility..at tens of watts", it needs 60% reproducibility at 1.1X input energy that can be obtained by multiple research groups.
If "I" were to try to get into LENR on a personally funded shoestring, I would use the PdD system in the following way. Fabricate some thermocouples using one nickel and one Pd wire. Use the Spawar electrodeposition method to electroplate a coating of Pd and D2 from an LiOH electrolyte under N2 or Ar on a dozen or so such TC's. Remove them from the electrolyte, wash with DI water, dry, and slip into a small heated chamber under D2 gas.
The one really positive thing about the PdD system is that it is known that the LENR process can be initiated at high levels AT OR NEAR ROOM TEMPERATURE.
What we need is more brains, doing more experiments of all sorts, not concentrating on NiH. But that takes MONEY, which, again, is denied to the field by dirty politics.