Sunday, September 29, 2013

DEFKALION’S HENI ARCHITECT HAS VISITED ME


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Defkalion is actually much greater and is far more advanced than both CF hater and CF lover skeptics think. And it has made more very hard R&D work than most of you imagine. Companies and selected individuals have seen their labs and their Hyperion generators working. At its turn, Defkalion also has visited universities, institutes, and companies in many parts of the world...
However I am a very privileged individual because I had the honor and pleasure to be visited by Defkalion’s research leader Yiannis Hadjichristos who has generously helped me to keep an old promise made at a decisive moment of my life. 14 years ago I have retired from this Institute: http://www.itim-cj.ro/ and I have promised to come back when the problem I have studied there, then still called Cold Fusion, will be solved i.e. the phenomenon will become a commercial energy source. For many years, cold fusion just became more and more interesting, was just fragmentary understood but remained unable to be scaled up. Then came Rossi
who has achieved enhanced excess but is behaving like the sorcerer’s apprentice- it seems he cannot control the new phenomena. Then, and this was the greatest positive super-surprise from the history of this, till now, unhappy field:  Defkalion has appeared as a unique Fast Company and has solved the problem.

Therefore when my former Institute has organized its traditional high level PIM symposium see the program, etc. here: 
http://pim.itim-cj.ro/detailed_program.php
Defkalion has accepted that Yiannis should present a paper describing their ideas, technology, and generators. Introducing him to the audience, I could declare that I kept my ancient promise; I had a very deep satisfaction; it was a kairos, a triumph moment of my life. It is not pleasant to be remembered in the annals as “that crazy gullible guy who believed even in cold fusion, R.I.P.!”

Yannis has presented the paper very well- strong content, passionate delivery, great visuals and had success despite the fact that the public was rather ignorant regarding the subject. Cold fusion is either ignored or considered a blunder of the far past. If you speak about it to physicists, the most positive reaction you can obtain is that they are suggesting smart methods and tricks to pass the Coulomb Barrier. The clue is that counter-tautologically speaking, “cold fusion is actually NOT cold fusion”
This was the reason for which before this event, I have published
my paper
intended to be a wake of call for the old guard and even more for the young guard but it had no impact- the domination of strong memes is almost irreversible. Only my closest LENR friends have reacted to it.

However, what made this meeting captivating was the possibility to discuss with Yiannis in the most open and friendly manner. Consider my definition of a friend: “somebody with whom you can think aloud”. Friends are great personal assets in the professional life.
PVC has brought me Hans Kaltwasser and Paul Zugravescu, cold fusion came with Hal Fox, Akira Kawasaki. Mike Carrell, Franco Piantelli and one guy who later became first his own worst enemy then I forgot his name. Now, it is the turn of HENI (because this is what Defkalion is actually doing) and Yiannis became a dear friend whom I admired first for what he has done, and now also for his character and personality. As I told when he introducing him at PIM, he has lead the team which made my dream real.

Take a look to page 23 in the presentation; you will see 5 (five) nude Hyperion generators; add to these the sixth generation now in development and you will get kind of backbone of a story, challenge,
heroic engineering, failures, successes- problem solving inside problem solving. From the very start, this research strategy had nothing Edisonian in it, Yiannis thinks –do not leave anything to luck, be proactive. The problem is much too difficult for long trial and error sequences. Yiannis’s education as mathematician, his specializations in complexity theory and systems thinking and his very diversified experience and expertise in problem solving were his main competitive advantages.
It is amazing; he took cold fusion seriously as object of research in 2009 when Defkalion still was just in an early stage of organization. Obviously a fast learner and a well targeted learner. He has discussed with many participants at PIM, physicists and chemists and he knows a lot of things- has a broad scientific-technological\Culture. See his LinkedIn profile.

We had long vivid discussions, one of them over 6 hours and I have learned a lot about what I am the most interested- more than DGT’s strategy – it is its mode of thinking, values, mission- in one word the Soul of the company, what moves it. The schema: build a technology and make money from it is an oversimplification. I have discussed more times with Alex Xanthoulis the CEO who has founded the company, has worked out the global strategy, took the risks and the vital decisions (as cutting the knot, more or less Gordian, that linked DGT to Andrea Rossi). When I speak with Alex, I hear a voice whispering “you could be such a leader too, but you made the fatal error to be born in a country ruled by dictators and growing up in a communist society” Bad chance but I will come back. Dying is bad per se but dying and not knowing more what happens with New Energy is an unbearable tragedy.

But back to the 5 generations of Hyperions and their history of some 27 months. No 1- does not work, No. 2- gives strong signs, No 3= it goes!, No. 4- it can be measured well, we are on the right track, No. 5 was developed and improved till the good functionality shown at the Demo. It was a job for a great well coordinated team people of different professions, many problems to be solved. The ‘firsts’were part of the strategy:
-        engineering is the way and science, theories are of great help however not only the CF born ones- new theories
-        the problem of control had absolute priority, increase of performances as COP comes after- a very wise decision.
It is about a very hard working team, do not think about sporadic experimentation, only R-5 means more than 300 tests performed
based on a very systematic research plan executed with mathematical rigor and precision. It is important for understanding the extent and level of their effort
A special remark – what the DGT people are doing is actually part of New Physics, new thinking in physics ADDING to what we know, establishing new directions, solving chronic problems, ending a period of relative stagnation and of unanswered questions. It is part of a New Wave in physics, something for YOUNG people of all ages. DGT, beyond creating a new source of energy, clean and 8 to 10 times cheaper than the most economical source today intends to be a nursery-incubator for the new ideas in physics.
A genius is a genius is a genius: Martin Fleischmann the Father of the original cold fusion energy dream was also one of the discoverers of PLASMONICS- a field in the stage of epidemic development now; nanoplasmonics is the clue and core of Defkalion’s process. I already wrote about their HENI (http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2012/08/defkalion-says-heni-is-more-proper-name.html
From now HENI means (see the PIM presentation p 8): Heat Energy from Nanoplasmonics/Nanoexplosions Interactions.
Yiannis and I have discussed fundamental things, in essence strategy and this has to e correlated with a realistic SWOT analysis. This tool Strengths-Weaknesses- Opportunities- Threats has to be used with emphasis and priority for T and W- Alex knows this much better than me. One of the most potent S features of a company is its ability to make good surprises, to deliver more and other things than expected. When teaching Management of Technology, I always gave this example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rikki-Tikki-Tavi
The faster, more inventive, less predictable, surpriseful mongoose defeats the very dangerous cobras. Therefore not a word about the coming events- wait please; see, and you will be happy (in case you indeed want new energy).
Inter alia we have discussed openly about the aggressive skeptics, Yiannis said that if Mary Yugo did not existed “she’ had to be invented as protection against sharks when swimming with them.
 A test made with Mary would be a fine move; unfortunately anybody can tell he/she is Mary Yugo. 

The DGT company is Strong, knows its Weaknesses, will use wisely the endless Opportunities it has and it’s aware of the magnitude and multitude of Threats.
At one point we have disagreed- the Company thinks their generators will be copied successfully by some smart competitors
in 6 months after going commercial but my guess is a minimum of 2 years. Let’s see.

See the attached photos
Yiannis and I in our flat 






Three very critical experts in adult intelligence have supervised
our discussions taking notes on their tablets. The expert-in–the middle, the most harsh one, Nora Toth, has stated that Yiannis is a “nagy fej” i.e. a “great head” (smart) in Hungarian, so he passed the exam.



You can find: 
The powerpoint presentation:

The submitted paper:

83 comments:

  1. congratulation Peter.

    We are suspended to news...

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  2. All the evidence that I have gleaned from the examination of many examples of LENR systems and their general behavior leads me to suspect that the underlying causal mechanisms of LENR involves gradualism.


    It looks like the positive charge that powers the repulsive force of the coulomb barrier that protects the nucleus is lowered in a continuous fashion rather than a binary on/off manor. The assay of the LENR ash products show indications that a wide range of both weak and strong nuclear reactions occur in the same system.


    Helium is energetically easy to produce. But elements heavier than iron require lots of power. In stellar transmutation, nuclear fusion stops at iron but elements heavier than iron are formed in the very high energy stellar explosions of a supernova.


    The character of the LENR reaction shows that the intensity of the causal mechanism of LENR at the most fundamental level, the nuclear level can be tuned and controlled as a smooth function from almost imperceptibly weak in some instances to extreme intensity in others. Sometimes this gradualism in causal intensity all happens in a single system whose behavior can range from very weak when the reaction is difficult to startup to very strong during wildly uncontrollable intense meltdown. I am now referring to what sometimes happens to the Ni/H reactor type.


    On the nuclear level, there must be only one LENR causal mechanism. Any successful LENR theory must explain how this nuclear reaction gradation in LENR occurs in any flavor of the many LENR systems that have been experimentally shown to exist.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric-field_screening

    Based on the astrophysical based Trojan Horse effect (Fermi-Thomas approximation), Kim’s optical theory associated with the Ni/H reactor accounts for gradualism in LENR as a function of the number of electrons (screened Poisson equation)that shield the nuclear charge.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screened_Poisson_equation


    Kim’s theory is predicated on the theoretically unexplored or the currently scientifically unrecognized effects of electromagnetism (EMF) on the nucleus.


    Are these effects electrostatic, magnetic, or a complex combination of both electrostatic and magnetic superposition of their combined wave forms?


    I suspect that magnetic effects associated with the optical theory are involved because there has been a recent discovery of a like magnetic effect that suppresses the charge of the electron, the Fractional Quantum Hall Effect (FQHE).

    The FQHE also applies gradual magnetically based screening as the magnetic intensity increases on the topologically constrained electron ensemble.

    In FQHE electrons start to become bosons in a gradual fashion as paired magnetic vortex based waveforms bend into the electron waveforms.

    Here too in LENR, both topologically constrained electron ensembles in the Nanoplasmonic solution(hot spot) and intense vortex electron currents inside the solitons that produce extreme anapole magnetism are both involved.

    How EMF can affect the strong force is new physics in the context of the standard model of subatomic fermionic particle interactions.

    In point of fact, the Aharonov-Bohm effect lends insight to this quantum situation

    http://www.unice.fr/DeptPhys/sem6/2008-2009/PagesWeb/Phoenix/pdf/ABPR.pdf

    Significance of Electromagnetic Potentials in the Quantum Theory

    This effect points to an electromagnetic potential (an energy field) as opposed to EMF (The derivative of the energy - a force field) that is involved in quantum mechanical LENR nuclear interactions.


    Things get increasingly more complicated and obscure as we zoom in ever closer to the internal nuclear processes that drive nuclear activity in LENR.

    New physics is afoot and it will be a load of fun trying to figure it all out.

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  3. Peter,

    Reading your blog is always interesting and the information you have shared after spending a whole day with Yiannis is very interesting.

    However, I bet the information you dident share on your blog is even more interesting :)

    Love / Dr Bob

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  4. Dear Mr. Gluck,
    In the presentation it is stated that for a period of around 10-13 sec an RSH nucleus is a “masqueraded” neutron. Then it is stated that Coulomb forces are almost zero during this short time window. But if we have no insight into the total time that an orbit of an RSH takes, we cannot make an estimate how small that window is. If an orbit takes 10-12 sec, the window is there 10% of the time, if an orbit takes 10-10 sec, the window is there only for 0,1% of the time. Can you give us some insight how small the window is, in a percentage of the total time?

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    1. There are a number of LENR experimental systems in which hydrogen is not present. Yet transmutation does occur. For example, the Proton 21 experiments shows transmutation when no hydrogen is present. This must lead to the conclusion that LENR is a nuclear reaction strictly and exclusively centered on EMF causation. This “masqueraded” neutron theory could well be a theoretical “RED Herring”.

      Looking at what happens to sub-nuclear particles is a deductive exercise. We need to look at as many types of LENR systems as we can possibly manage to deduce what is going on at the sub-nuclear level. This neutron fixation in theory is myopic and is primarily based on the assumption that the coulomb barrier must be overcome by a neutrally charge particle. I say that EMF alone can disrupt nuclear processes as observed in proton-21 and exploding foil type transmutation experimentation.

      By the way, many old guard LENR theorists discount the evidence of transmutation in experimentation as a result of LENR nuclear processes. This denial behavior is necessary to perpetuate the old deuterium based cold fusion meme.

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  6. Peter, could you please ask to Yiannis Hadjichristos if they solved the "critical issues" in the measurements that Gamberale and Cappiello had talked about before this summer?
    According to what stated by Gamberale in an interview on Radio24, the first week of September Defkalion Europe along with Defkalion had to verify the issues before restart contacts with commercial partners which remain "frozen" until now. Any news about that?

    At the moment it seems to me a priority issue. I don't want to report here details about rumors circulating in Italy relating to the calorimetric measurements on the Hyperion, but they are something serious and seems very well grounded (with many details too). There is no way for Defkalion to continue any kind of commercialization when rumors like those circulate among related professionals, insiders or experts.

    Franco.

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    1. Just report me the rumors, as you wish. You know my address
      Peter

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    2. Just report me the rumors, as you wish. You know my address
      Peter

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    3. @ Franco Anonymous
      I will agree that the comercialization/ industralization effort we follow, trying to define this new energy sector is complex and difficult requiring our productivity and responsibility to focus on far more important issues other than following and responding to any anonymous rumor in blogs aiming to opposite objectives .
      Yiannis Hadjichristos

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    4. Mr Hadjichristos, Franco is not asking that you address the rumors, rather an update about the problems which caused Defkalion to freeze the relationship with customers -a fact confirmed by Luca Gamberale.

      Any other bits of information about Defkalion plans will be greatly appreciated. You know, most of us want to see confirmation that your efforts are succeeding.

      Thanks

      Roberto

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  7. Hopeful but tired of waitingSeptember 30, 2013 at 7:09 PM

    To reiterate. While the talk/report by Hadjichristos/Gluck was nice, there was nothing really new. Just repeated vague comments about the future research. Nothing really new since ICCF18 last August, and unfortunately that demonstration was severely flawed. Furthermore, Hadjichristos has not yet even tried to address the comments of Luca Gamberale on Radio24 (these are not rumors, see http://www.lenr-forum.com/showthread.php?2267-Luca-Gamberale-on-radio-24-Freeze-relation-with-CLIENTS-after-some-test-questions ) that Defkalion Milan has suspended all contacts with companies until they have resolved critical problems in their calorimetry. This is very surprising. Since these questions have not been answered, there is no clear indication that Defkalion even have a functioning device.

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  8. A lot of words "commercialization/industrialization..."
    Not rumors, the truth is that doesn't work, you are throwing dust in the eyes.

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    1. No problem with your remarks, all you can do is to wait. A person
      is defined by his/her mode(s) of thinking. But couldn't you use a less
      "dry" metaphor, smoke is not good for you?\
      Next to the absolutely impossible, comes displacing memes from people's thinking.
      Peter

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  9. Yes, "smoke into the eyes" is good just the same.
    I do not need to wait more time, I already had the evidence, a group of skilled and qualified technicians and I have examinate the test and the conclusion is very simple, it doesn't work.

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    1. OK, can you send me the report of this fine group of technicians (including you)?
      What have they examined de facto? Not joking, I want to learn.
      Peter

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    2. OK, can you send me the report of this fine group of technicians (including you)?
      What have they examined de facto? Not joking, I want to learn.
      Peter

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  10. Reports are a property of our Clients.
    If You want to understand why it doesn't work, we can share and debate with you, through this Blog, some technical arguments, using as guideline the public video streaming of demo of last July.

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    1. I understand and this is an interesting situ ation; in practice it works
      so your Team has demonstrated theoretically that it does not work.
      Standard situation, it has happened with both the airplane and the bumblebee. You know me well from the old times, so please send the report to my private address and you will see how can I solve
      such a problem practice vs. theory.

      Peter

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    2. The issue is not theoretical demonstration, the problems are energy measurements performed in wrong way and as consequence, wrong conclusions.

      It's better to point out that we haven't any issue on theory to be solved.
      "The theory" is completely out from our interest, we evaluated simply if it work or not.

      As said, Reports are property of our Customers (we worked for them as skilled consultants).

      Sorry but to get Reports you will share also test activity costs and as you know test activity has an high costs.

      At no costs, as said if you are interested, we can share and debate with you, through this Blog, some technical arguments, following as baseline contents of the public video streaming of last July demo.

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    3. I hope you are really skilled consultants, but how can you prove you
      are not unskilled amateurs. Can you tell me in confidence who are you actually? Do you know the Dunning Kruger effect? I have met a few ten real experts but hundreds of pseudo-gurus some even representing Cipolla's Laws. Unfortunately today amateurs tend to believe they know everything. But I am open to discuss with my readers
      Peter

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    4. I hope you are really skilled consultants, but how can you prove you
      are not unskilled amateurs. Can you tell me in confidence who are you actually? Do you know the Dunning Kruger effect? I have met a few ten real experts but hundreds of pseudo-gurus some even representing Cipolla's Laws. Unfortunately today amateurs tend to believe they know everything. But I am open to discuss with my readers
      Peter

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    5. Maybe not just us could suffer of this "Dunning Kruger effect", also you as hypothesis.

      We haven't any interest to share and debate with You if you don't trust in us. No problem.

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    6. I simply don't know how skilled you are and you claim that a good test was bad- on what basis? Not easily believable, amici miei!
      Peter

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    7. Last word is yours. We respect your choice.
      We understand that it could be not easy believe us but we are sure that negative test results are real.

      I give you small suggestion (even if you don't believe us), put under hard critical observation these tests, starting from heat measurement and thermodynamic point of view.

      Leave away theoretical speculation, it's smoke into the eyes in the attempt to cover that doesn't work and in order to keep high attention around.
      When you evaluate results and test set-up, forget also any relationship, it has been used to mask that nothing works.

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    8. If this is true what are you implying, please be more specific, I heard
      the comments of Luca Gamberale on Radio24 in august and I would like to know if you participated at that specific test for Gamberale??if yes La prego di condividere quanto le e' possibile riguardo al test, grazie!

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    9. @ Anonymous
      > We haven't any interest to share and debate with You if you don't trust in us. No problem.

      I don't want to debate but I would like to know informations.
      For example: you say the Hyperion doesn't work, you can say a such thing only if you have used a different set-up or different instrumentation compared to those we all have seen during the 23 of July's demo. Is that true?
      I don't think your customer complains if you only specify such differences.

      Franco.

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    10. I did it. In any case to any skilled and qualified technician, not factious and non-partisan, is sufficient to observe and examine the video of last July to get technical evidence and to conclude that it does not work.
      Then if any person don't want to see is another matter...

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    11. The video was watched by many people I guess but obviously thye were not skilled and not qualified enough to see that it does NOT work. How do you describe this "NOT"- no excess heat, no control, the white is black? Not easy task for you guys, Jupiter knows what is your driving force to say such things?

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    12. The video was watched by many people I guess but obviously thye were not skilled and not qualified enough to see that it does NOT work. How do you describe this "NOT"- no excess heat, no control, the white is black? Not easy task for you guys, Jupiter knows what is your driving force to say such things?

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    13. OK please, try to calculate thermal power value and energy "produced" as output from the "reactor" during the test (with H) based on available data and explain with numbers how and where it has been dissipated.

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    14. I suppose you want o show me your calculations and not mine.
      Please.. you get zero for both , all the time and as total? Or even less?

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    15. I suppose you want o show me your calculations and not mine.
      Please.. you get zero for both , all the time and as total? Or even less?

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    16. Did you never check thermal power produced during that test or consider correct just indications on screen?
      Have you never considered that total thermal power amount should be about 25kW?
      If water flux is 0.55 l/m, H2O mass will be 33 Kg/h

      a) Water heating about 3 kW
      Roughly: P=cv*m*(Th-Tc)
      mass of H2O = 33 kg/h
      cp = 4180 J/(kg °C)
      from Tc = 20°C to Th = 100°C

      b) Vaporization about 21 kW
      Roughly: P=h*m
      vaporization Entalpy of water is 2260 kJ/kg
      Note: All water must be converted to steam, because at ambient pressure and temperature of 150°C steam can't exist as wet.

      c) Superheating steam about 3/4 kW
      Roughly: P=h*m*(Th-Tc)
      mass of H2O = 33 kg/h
      h = 1600 J/(kg °C)
      from Tc = 100°C to Th = 150°C

      Moreover have you never seen with your eyes and heard the hissing of a dry steam flux of 33 kg/h at 150°C?

      Did you never look into a sink where 33 kg/h of steam are collected and how must be realized this sink to manage (with a minimum of safety) this large amount of heat?

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    17. @ Anonymous

      OK, all you have written is correct and more or less it is what rumors say about the tests in Milan. Could you add something more specific about your verify?
      E.g., did you see directly the steam coming out from the pipe? An user with nickname JCM that was in MIlan as expert for a interested company has posted on Mats Lewan's blog and he says that Defkalion's technicians prevent him to look directly the output of the pipe (during the public demo happened the same, we all have seen only a pipe inside a drain in spite of what people had requested).
      The setup used in your test was the same or did you condensate the output steam inside a tank?
      Did you use different instruments for the measure of the electric power, in particular the power going to the high voltage circuit?

      Franco.

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    18. Before adding other information in addition to the video's immages, I am waiting for Peter Gluck detailed technical demonstration, not exotic theory but real tests data, numbers and heat calculation, possibly with related verification.

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    19. To the calculation.

      Do you have manufactured hot water by mixing steam with cold water? See this simple fast calculator:
      http://www.onlineconversion.com/mixing_water.htm

      A simple kitchen tap fully open gives 10-12 liters water per minute,
      that in the Milano plant feeding the sink was surely greater.

      However:

      http://www.onlineconversion.com/mixing_water.htm

      make a calculation of mixing 12 units of water at 15 C with 0.5 units pf steam at 160 C and you will obtain 12.5 units of water
      at 43 C.
      Where is the problem?
      Water is a lousy drink but a wonderful cooling agent.

      Peter




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    20. I agree with Peter. I think this was just a cleaver way of getting rid of that huge amount of heat.

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    21. I ment clever. And I'm not the same Anonymous :)

      Esa

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    22. We discussed about that on matts blog, and inspired by Peter's previous ideas I proposed that way. The water that flow through the reactor is about 1l/minute like my office fresh water fontain.
      about 8 times more is needed to condensate all the steam (assuming the maximum)...
      Lik Peter it is a perfect solution.

      The only question is that flow.
      Matt seems to have observed a tiny flow... tiny flow may be result of an artifact, or fair estimation.

      The result is not an evidence of fraud/artifact... (only hyperskeptical users translate any question into the answer that please their prejudice). It is a possibility from unreliable data we have...

      it is based on the assumption that
      - matt lewans made a fair estimate whether the flow was higher of below 5l/min
      - the flow meter changed behavior (with an underestimation by 5-10 of the flow) because of backpressure (or remote control)
      note that the backpressure lead to exit pressure which was not detected, which may have changed vaporization temperature, and caused huge noise (some says there were bubbles, but pipes are too long)
      - that Defkalion did not see it before or organized it as a fraud and made a demo with no money yet to do, while they organized it by surprize... with no previous deadline...
      - that defkalion probably fooled Nelson too.
      - that they have no partner or fooled them all, including Defkalion EU and Gamberale...

      it start to look like an improbable conspiracy theory...

      or there was enough water to cool and condensate most steam, then steam or water flowed and cooled on the sewer pipes, down the building...

      it would be more easy to dismiss if we could see the setup of the "sink hole", whether is was tightly closed or open, estimating the water flow...

      maybe was the flow enough non-turbulent, thus silent and stable, that a witness would have said it was few water...

      anyway making the mixing part of the measurement, transparent, would be a good idea (Credit to Peter).


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    23. Peter I think that you haven't great job experience on water/steam exchangers, It's not so simple mixing as in your kitchen. Physics on the field isn't as a link on internet or writing Post in a Blog.

      24 times 33 kg/h means that you needs to mix 792 kg/h of cold water with a steam having pressure around 4 bar coming out from the "reactor" output pipe.
      As visible, looking with attention the video, the sink was open on top, a standard pipe went into the sink and in this condition 33 kg/h of the steam comes out at speed of 22 m/s (about 80 km/h) and you must hear a great hissing, large ripple/bubbles and a lot of splashing water.
      None could look inside that sink without getting in face hot splashing water. In the video you can see that Mats Lewan looked inside the sink from top side without any problem!
      Moreover a lot of steam should escape from top and its heat exchanged with the environment (not the cold water).
      All these simple physic events didn't exist, remember? Why?
      Simply because the thermal energy produced by the "reactor" was largely less (more then one magnitude less at least).
      Have you ever deeply thought about?

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    24. Dear unknown friend,

      It happens that I have a great experience over 20 years of working
      in the chemical industry and have used there so much water steam mixtures that your entire village can swim or be drowned in it.
      I have a CV on the web and It is not fair from you to remain anonymous and launch all kind of hypotheses for the innocent
      amateurs. Mats Lewan who was there has not told that the
      energy production was low or lower than than measured, it is very difficult to evaluate the quantity of water flowing in the sink.
      Have you seen a rather similar case with mixing generating a lot of noise? You can continue with speculations and insinuations but
      it is useless, better go to a factory to acquire some practical experience especially with steam (it makes painful burns)
      Mathematics is serious in engineering, it is not rubberlike, as "magnitude less". Parole...

      This demo was just one of many experiments made before real
      expert witnesses and no one has said that the claimed elephant heat is just mosquito heat.

      Who is your Customer? I hope he is reading this comment and will asking his wasted money back.

      Peter

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    25. Dear Peter Gluck,
      your CV isn't under discussion, you quoted a kitchen example oversimplifying the problem and I reply to you at the same level.
      Maybe You ignore a fundamental detail, the pipe of steam inside the sink wasn't plunged into the cold water, your examples are inappropriate.
      My Customers are really happy, they have saved a lot of money, my honorary compared with was cheap and they thanks me often.

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    26. I have read a lot of comments and when a real expert talks about this topic, the arguments are the same of this Anonymous poster (by the way sign anyhow your posts in order to identify you among the anonymous).
      Reading on Italian blogs I can say that e.g. Mario Massa (just to cite one that uses his real name) is an engineer ten-years expert in steam, calorimetry and measurements, says the same things about absolute values of power and related steam. A 30kW steam flow is something big, and can't be easily got into a drain without traces in the room (heat and "sauna" effect).

      Since the steam is dry, the temperature reading could be right (have you verified it with other thermocouples or some external sensor?), so you suggest that the water flow reading is wrong, but we have seen that the flow meter has been verified before the demo, so how can you explain this fact?

      @ Peter
      Is difficult to talk with someone that has done a test but is under NDA. This is the big problem, when we talk about LENR+ there is total absence of transparency.
      At first glance the demo had convinced me, but reading expert's opinion, there is more that one fact that is not clear. For example, the problem found by Mats Lewan about the measure of the input power has not been cleared;
      people asked to the see the flow of steam but no one saw it; every expert says that when there is a calorimetry with phase change, the correct way to do is to make condense the output steam and measure the increase of temperature of a known mass of water, alternatively the calorimetry should not be with phase change.
      On this problem Rossi stumbled for 2 years, it's not possible that Defkalion falls in error on the same thing.

      Franco.

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    27. Summary of our test results:

      1) Temperature check of in-out probes was OK.
      2) Electric energy consumption was measured and found as expected.
      3) Real water flux during demo with H, a lot less than shown by data acquisition.
      4) Gamma Ray level, natural radioactivity, absence of extra radiations.
      5) No appreciable EM field.
      6) Physical signs, related with an high thermal energy production/exchange, negative.
      7) Real thermal energy value (taking into account also possible losses) comparable with electric input energy.
      Thermal energy level was orders of magnitude less than expected.

      Conclusion "reactor" doesn't work.

      Anonymous (not believed by Peter)

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    28. VEDEREMO! However 3), 6), 7) and conclusion in error.

      What about the Ar test?

      Peter

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    29. During blank test with Ar, point 3) check was OK.

      Your last comment not fully understandable to me.
      Anyway why not ask to your friends the possibility to execute in live "by You in person" (with your own instrumentation these verification on the "reactor" without limitations of any kind?

      If all is so clear, they should reply to You:
      OK Peter no problem, we can go together immediately in our dedicated R&D dept. now open and operative in Canada and you can test "reactor" own, free of any limitation.

      Let us know if you are able to get in short your real and independent test results, or some difficulty will rise (like take time, excuses, and so on...).

      Anonymous (not believed by Peter)

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    30. It is not your problem I am too old to travel and I have not the slightest doubt that the Hyperion works. I will test it when I will
      replace my Bosch 3000 W central heater with a Hyperion.
      Many of my friends have witnessed the test found massive excess heat, good control no problems.
      In case you really believe what you say it is OK; if not....sorry for you.

      Better read my 20 problem solving Rules you will need them..

      A domani, prego

      Peter

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    31. A last my suggestion to You:
      think always using just your brain and carefully observe using only your eyes.
      Peter, i sow that you are ever young in spirit, even if age increases like for all.
      I hope and I wish that you could live so long (waiting for replacing of your Bosch 3000 W heater with a central Hyperion) but it's necessary that you live a lot of time, more time than the famous Methuselah. :-)

      Thanks for your courtesy, allowing me to write on your blog.
      See you.

      Anonymous (not believed by Peter)

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    32. Thanks, we will still meet somewhere and settle our dispute.
      Just one request, you surely are oo young to remember Pitigrilli
      who has told: "Non datemi consigli: so sbagliare da me."

      Good night!
      petr

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    33. about the visible effect, teh sauna effect, if the steam is condensed by a flow of 8 times the reactor flow, then there is no reason to have visible effects, since there is no steam in the air.

      the water flow, the structure of the "sink hole" is the only question.

      for the rest, tthere is no reasonable reason for back pressure over few meter of pipe, while the other side of the pipe is at normal pressure because steam is condensed.

      note also that the sink hope was put in a protected place, maybe because it is moaning a little...

      there is no evidence of fraud, but some data missing to ruleout an error in the flow for the most extreme skeptics...

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    34. Found just surfing on Internet...
      These are no just rumors, are people informed and directly involved.

      DGT EU CEO Cappiello states:
      I have made ​​some measurements while streaming video ICCF-18 that have highlighted some inconsistencies measurement, subsequent tests have further confirmed these inconsistencies.
      In light of these inconsistencies have been suspended all trade negotiations and were put aware of all potential users of the technology of inconsistencies.


      Coincidences?

      Peter, do you think that also DGT EU are skeptics liars and defeatists and part of a large conspiracy against?

      Considering that you can't make direct tests in person and "your friends" could put at stake your reputation and your career, it should be better keep caution.
      One day you might be remembered just as a gullible.
      I'm not part of those "your friends" but I have no reason to lie.
      Do not you think it's better to think about it a lot?

      Anonymous (not believed by Peter)

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    35. I would be grateful if you will use a distinctive nickname.
      You obviously have not read my rules of problem solving at
      http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2012/02/fourth-translation-of-my-rules-in.html
      Rule 18 says you have to use the correct premises for a problem-
      in this case to see it in context- global and local. I doubt you have it
      but it is your problem.
      Now, I accept to be considered gullible if you will be proved right;
      vice-versa what will you do if the Defkalions work and works well?

      I am on the internet from the start and Googler from 1999 i have seen and participated at hundreds of disputes and a settled dispute is an avis rarissima.
      So let's wait the next Defkalion demos together and we will see
      if I am gullible or you are incompetent, but let's wait peacefully
      and with mutual respect. OK?
      waiting for your nickname.
      Peter

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    36. If you need, call me "a Tester" as reference.

      Rule 18 says you have to use the correct premises for a problem- in this case to see it in context- global and local.
      Well beautiful words, but have you never think to verify by own, for example talking with DGT EU asking directly to them exactly what happened?
      No travel Peter, nothing strenuous just a phone call.
      Defkalion EU phone number is on Internet, 003902539282.

      So let's wait the next Defkalion demos together and we will see if I am gullible or you are incompetent, but let's wait peacefully and with mutual respect. OK?
      OK, no problem.
      How much longer do you mean wait next public Defkalion demo? un month, two months, six months, ... , try to define when.

      a Tester

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    37. Tester is OK as name.
      As told I have no problems with the test, you have. I have nothing to ask the guys, I am no investigator. Surely I have asked luca about his health - by the way what about the test from July 22?
      and he answered promptly

      Luca Gamberale
      Jul 24

      to me
      Buonasera Peter. Sto bene adesso, niente di grave. Le demo non potevano andare meglio! nei prossimi giorni vedremo le reazioni. A presto (I hope he will not be angry for telling this here, it is not exactly acoording to the Netiquette
      I suppose you have phoned to them what do they tell you?

      You will not have to wait much for the test and not much for the commercial Hyperion prototype.

      'I shall see thee at Philippi"

      Peter

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    38. Peter is quite simple, strange that you didn't think a bit about this.

      The message you quoted, it was written two weeks before of when the CEO of Defkalion EU on 8 Agoust 2013 makes public statement to advise all (see my comment before) that: ...have highlighted some inconsistencies measurement, subsequent tests have further confirmed these inconsistencies...
      ...were put aware of all potential users of the technology of inconsistencies.


      How did you explain?

      Try to ask them now.

      a Tester

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    39. Dear Tester,

      I am trying to solve my problems and I have no problems
      with the Defkalion process, it works fine and has logical consistency
      If it was some inconsistency with he test it has happened during the very test and not 2 weeks after the test. I have no duty and no idea re solving other people's or organization's problem. If you want to demonstrate that a real fact is actually impossible this is
      again your problem. And please, do not give advices or orders to me as try to ask them now. If I want to ask, I will ask.
      Peter

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    40. Dear Peter,

      If it was some inconsistency with he test it has happened during the very test and not 2 weeks after the test.
      How can be you sure? Did you verify asking to Defkalion EU with a next message?

      Anyway mine wasn't any order, it was a stimulus to help to you to open your eyes. As you prefer.
      Good luck.

      a Tester

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    41. You can be sure also- thta statement is dated as you said.
      In case I will have a problem with them, I will try to solve it. You have not answered my question, tester!

      I am opting for life long learning as Gigli in the following anecdote
      but please let me do it in my way, OK caro Tester? I am busy thanks Fatum!

      In later years, Luciano was on the receiving end of countless backstage visits from starstruck young fans; but at the age of twelve, he was the one who came, awed, into the great tenor’s dressing room after a rehearsal and got up his nerve to ask Gigli a question.

      ‘Maestro, how long did you study?’

      ‘I stopped studying three minutes ago,’ Gigli said. ‘I am always studying.’”

      Bravissimo, Beniamino!

      Peter

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    42. Hi Peter, cold also this winter?

      Take care of your Bosch 3000W (maybe ZS 18-2 AE ?)
      http://www.bosch-climate.hu/files/201002241725230.GAZ%203000%20W%20%20BA%20%28%20Caraclass%20%29.pdf

      Winter is very long and cold and if You hope to replace it with an Hyperion you will never get heat because Defkalion reactor does not work.
      If still not believe me, talk with DGT EU people.

      a Tester

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    43. Peter, good morning...

      Did you read here:
      http://matslew.wordpress.com/2014/05/12/defkalion-demo-proven-not-to-be-reliable/#comments

      and here:
      http://animpossibleinvention.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/dgt-faulty-demo-140502-english.pdf

      Are you now finally aware that you and AlainCo are circumvented and gullible men?

      a Tester

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    44. Dear a Tester,

      I knew about these accusations from July 23 2013, I knew also
      about the background and about what really happened.
      Please wait for DGT's answer. In case you want to find more by yourself search my writings for the degassing of Hyperion.
      Do you have worked with flowmeters?
      Peter

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    45. Dear Peter,

      I knew also about the background and about what really happened.
      Oh, did you test the Hyperion in Milan?
      Why did you hide "what really happened" to your reader?
      On the contrary, you wrote here:
      http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com/2013/09/defkalions-heni-architect-has-visited-me.html?showComment=1380796674927#c6927321773403203823
      Remember?

      Please wait for DGT's answer
      What should we wait? More lies from them?

      Do you have worked with flowmeters?
      Yes.

      a Tester

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    46. In this case, please tell how can you obtain falsely increased
      flow values of flow in a controllable consistent way and please use
      the results shown at the July 23 demo for your analysis.. forgewt prejudices.

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    47. Peter,

      in my previous comments I have already shown (many months ago) test data and their inconsistencies but you have not ever read with cure because maybe you convinced that only you were right.

      Now you wrote I knew also about the background and about what really happened and I ask to you why did you hide "what really happened" to your readers?

      a Tester

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    48. Peter,

      in my previous comments I have already shown (many months ago) test data and their inconsistencies but you have not ever read with cure because maybe you convinced that only you were right.

      Now you wrote I knew also about the background and about what really happened and I ask to you why did you hide "what really happened" to your readers?

      a Tester

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    49. Still insist to deny proofs and the clear evidences:
      how can you obtain falsely increased flow values of flow in a controllable consistent way...

      Also Jed Rothwell answered you clearly:
      Since even Xanthoulis admits this, I do not see why you dispute it.

      Dullness, ignorance or what else?

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  11. Please , share whatever you can, we are tired of waiting from Defkalion

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    1. Armida, as an opera lover I like your name!
      My dear girl, you are tired waiting for waiting for cold fusion/LENR
      Defkalion is newcomer- in how many years should it solve what We have NOT solved in 24+? By Jove, they are a real FastCompany so
      you will NOT wait much!
      Peter

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    2. Armida, as an opera lover I like your name!
      My dear girl, you are tired waiting for waiting for cold fusion/LENR
      Defkalion is newcomer- in how many years should it solve what We have NOT solved in 24+? By Jove, they are a real FastCompany so
      you will NOT wait much!
      Peter

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    3. Armida Cesarec

      In any involved process there are many transition points, and LENR is certainly a complicated subject.

      What in particular among these points are you interested in?

      For example, as follows:

      Acceptance of LENR as a valid scientific subject.

      LENR taught in schools and universities.

      Release of a commercial LENR generator into the marketplace.

      Publication of a complete scientific based theory of LENR.

      Experimentation confirming this LENR theory.

      Some other point not listed here.

      What is the particular LENR transition point(s) that would satisfy your hard to bear need in waiting?

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    4. Release of a commercial LENR generator into the marketplace of course!!but it sounds to good to be true and because of that I would like to hear from anonymous guy if he made the test for Luca Gamberale??!!

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    5. Replying to "Last word is yours. We respect your choice."

      You are free to write me at my personal address, blogs have limitations re files whatever. It does not disturb me that I think
      you are in the greatest and deepest error possible but I hope
      your intentions are good and you are honest in your actions. Dum spiro, spero
      Peter

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    6. Replying to "Last word is yours. We respect your choice."

      You are free to write me at my personal address, blogs have limitations re files whatever. It does not disturb me that I think
      you are in the greatest and deepest error possible but I hope
      your intentions are good and you are honest in your actions. Dum spiro, spero
      Peter

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  12. Peter, to dismiss the claims of error/fraud Defkalion only has to carry out a test that avoids the potential experimental pitfalls pointed out. If the level of development of their technology is as advanced as they claim, they are doing that every day. Their refusal to carry out a convincing demonstration is suspect.

    Besides, Gamberale confirmed that the experimental setup was flawed, which forced them to freeze the relationships with the customers.

    The conclusion is that they are still using this experimental setup because it is the only way to obtain "positive" results. In fact, the day before the public demonstration they had set up a tank collecting the output water.

    Roberto

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  13. Paul Uhlmann Architects Bryon Bay are offering Architectural Services to our clients which are situated all round the nation. Paul Uhlmann Architect offer these Architectural Services at very affordable prices.

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  14. Peter did you read this interview of CEO of DU Franco Cappiello?
    http://www.nextme.it/scienza/energia/7700-fusione-fredda-intervista-cappiello-defkalion-europe

    You know perfectly Italian so you can understand well what he says when talking of DGT behaviour he answered:
    Direi proprio che potremmo parlare di malafede
    Translate in English:
    I would say that we can talk about bad faith

    You are just a conceited and gullible man, strong friend of DGT from long time and supporter of their fakes claim.

    When you will talk again with your "great friend" Hadjichristos, "the research leader" HENI ARCHITECT, do not forget give many thanks him together your friends Kim and Nelson, the alleged "scientists".

    I give a strong suggestion to you: the best for you is to stay retire.

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    1. You will get the answer in a couple of days. We will see who has to retire, who is gullible and so on. Just wait and if you are active try to reproduce what Gamberale says; he has much fantasy of the evil sort.
      Peter

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    2. Couple of days are elapsed...

      This interview is all? What should it demonstrate?
      Where are real proofs?

      Peter, your news as usual (and all Xanthoulis words) are just vacuum words, chat fits for a pub and usual a bluff.

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    3. Today is Thursday, a "couple of day" are already elapsed.

      Beyond the chatter, any proofs to show?

      Where are technical evidences against Gamberale's written Report?

      No empty words reported in a Blog, but verifiable facts.

      Do you have or not?

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  15. You will get the answer in a couple of days. We will see who has to retire, who is gullible and so on...

    You must demonstrate that what Gamberale (your friend) written is false, not me.
    I'm curios to see this your new bombastic demonstration promised.

    Probably it will be again only chattering (not real evidences) of a conceited and gullible man, nevertheless I will be here again starting from next Wednesday.

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    1. Anonymous - could you not find a better name e.g. your real one?-
      we both know this discussion will be settled only when the DGT generators will be on the market. Gamberale has used some experiments done in out of standard conditions in order to transfer
      the errors to the normal experiments- a vicious combination of logical fallacies. As regarding the CEO of DGT his words were
      taken out of context and twisted.
      I am very tolerant with people having opinions differing froim my opinions, even opposite. However name- and identityless wise guys who give me advises from an superior position- should learn that I have a black belt in verbal karate

      Peter

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    2. when the DGT generators will be on the market
      Still believe in this farce?

      "Black belt in verbal karate" just means only able to say:
      blah. blah...

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