MOTTO
Trying too hard to do the impossible and useless is counterproductive (Unknown)
DAILY NOTES
About two useless and impossible things:
a) The Honest Source Method
Honest Source to journalist, public, World etc
Dear X,
A. We inform you that John Doe is a maniacal serial killer; unstoppable.
B. Here is the list of his victims with details re. the crimes
Please note that at the request of the families of the victims document B. -its content- is strictly secret. keep it absolutely confidential
Do not use B. However try to convince everybody that John Doe is a monster. OK?
(The same method is used by Jed Rothwel with his inside information about the 1MW Test.)
b) A new trend in flowmeterology - a la Jed Rothwell
Anyone knowledgeable about flowmeters can tell you a dozen ways to make the answer 10 times too large. It hardly matters which of these methods Rossi used. As I said, read the manual and you too will learn how to get the wrong answer.
I will call this statement- after 3 stages of euphemization - a COLOSSAL BLUNDER
and an unpardonable offense to all honest users of flowmeters or of any other instrument used in research and industry. I made heroic efforts to avoid writing "an Everest of ill-willed stupidity"
This wisdom comes from a reality as that described in the "Emperor's Seeds"
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2011/02/unwise-ancient-parable.html
from which I cite:
"Is it good for us to know that in the ancient times, over 99% of the population was absolutely immune to the virus of Honesty?
Trying too hard to do the impossible and useless is counterproductive (Unknown)
DAILY NOTES
About two useless and impossible things:
a) The Honest Source Method
Honest Source to journalist, public, World etc
Dear X,
A. We inform you that John Doe is a maniacal serial killer; unstoppable.
B. Here is the list of his victims with details re. the crimes
Please note that at the request of the families of the victims document B. -its content- is strictly secret. keep it absolutely confidential
Do not use B. However try to convince everybody that John Doe is a monster. OK?
(The same method is used by Jed Rothwel with his inside information about the 1MW Test.)
b) A new trend in flowmeterology - a la Jed Rothwell
Anyone knowledgeable about flowmeters can tell you a dozen ways to make the answer 10 times too large. It hardly matters which of these methods Rossi used. As I said, read the manual and you too will learn how to get the wrong answer.
I will call this statement- after 3 stages of euphemization - a COLOSSAL BLUNDER
and an unpardonable offense to all honest users of flowmeters or of any other instrument used in research and industry. I made heroic efforts to avoid writing "an Everest of ill-willed stupidity"
This wisdom comes from a reality as that described in the "Emperor's Seeds"
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2011/02/unwise-ancient-parable.html
from which I cite:
"Is it good for us to know that in the ancient times, over 99% of the population was absolutely immune to the virus of Honesty?
This is Jed's world too, probably he has first learned how to cheat with the Themometer showing he has fever so he cannot go to the school.
Being a chemical engineer I like reliable and correct instruments and measurements; being a chemical engineer I have worked with flowmeters in labs, pilot plants and industrial but have never imagined methods to inflate the values. But I know which of the dozen is the best- and Jed applies it in his writings too;
"Read 1, say and record it was 10"
As already told, during my first working day, July 31, 1959 I had to adjust and control manually two flowmeters (at the Factory for Synthetic Fibers Savinesti). One f;lowmeter for air, the other for nitrogen and I was lucky to be at the second when the first has exploded.
I have not thought about recording 10 times more liquid hydrogen cyanide HCN than the real flow in the pilot plant making acrylonitrile from HCN and acetylene- with a copper based catalyst. I wrote than an essay: "Death is a bluish fluid that boils at 27 C"
I sincerely confess that I have no idea how to use a flowmeter to give such enhanced results. Chemical industry is a place where you do not have the privilege of the second great errormany times, you need precise data to be able to take the correct decisions. Especially in research here there are no standards and unknown parameters can make trouble.
Jed if I do not know 12 methods to increase the readings of the flowmeter 10 times than I am not knowledgeable ?
May I ask you to give my readers a list?
As regarding the manuals, usually they give a list of errors and instructions how to avoid or minimize them, not how to manipulate the data in your favor. As far I know.
As an side effect of our discussion a nice Chinese flowmeter manufacturer Kaifeng Kaide Flow Instrument, China.has contacted me and sent basic information about their classes of products - an impressive lot of them. I think they can help you in case you stop at say, 8 methods, isn't it?
I was a bit contrariated that Andrea Rossi has found Jed's statement regarding Flowmeters "comic" while I considered it a criminal offense to so many honest workers using the instrument(s).
Rossi says the following about this subject:
"I can just repeat what I said of the flowmeter on my blog. It is for sale since many years, hundred thousands of it are in operation in the world, it has been certified at the specific flow and temperature of our case.IH had under control the flowmeter for one year and never said anything about it until the end of the test, while Darden in person illustrated it to his investors visiting the plant, showing its seals put by the ERV and saying the test was stellar..
Jed, I hope one day you will apologize for what you have said here about knowledgeable flowmeterists.
Till then we are waiting for the list of the dozen methods usable to increase the reading on a flowmeter with 1 order of magnitude.
And a small puzzle to you: if you know indeed so much about the flowmeter used in the 1MWplant, please tell how is it connected to the number 1934? It is elementary!
DAILY NEWS
1) Judge Orders Jury Trial in Rossi et al v. Darden et al Starting June 26, 2017 (updated)
May I ask you to give my readers a list?
As regarding the manuals, usually they give a list of errors and instructions how to avoid or minimize them, not how to manipulate the data in your favor. As far I know.
As an side effect of our discussion a nice Chinese flowmeter manufacturer Kaifeng Kaide Flow Instrument, China.has contacted me and sent basic information about their classes of products - an impressive lot of them. I think they can help you in case you stop at say, 8 methods, isn't it?
I was a bit contrariated that Andrea Rossi has found Jed's statement regarding Flowmeters "comic" while I considered it a criminal offense to so many honest workers using the instrument(s).
Rossi says the following about this subject:
"I can just repeat what I said of the flowmeter on my blog. It is for sale since many years, hundred thousands of it are in operation in the world, it has been certified at the specific flow and temperature of our case.IH had under control the flowmeter for one year and never said anything about it until the end of the test, while Darden in person illustrated it to his investors visiting the plant, showing its seals put by the ERV and saying the test was stellar..
Jed, I hope one day you will apologize for what you have said here about knowledgeable flowmeterists.
Till then we are waiting for the list of the dozen methods usable to increase the reading on a flowmeter with 1 order of magnitude.
And a small puzzle to you: if you know indeed so much about the flowmeter used in the 1MWplant, please tell how is it connected to the number 1934? It is elementary!
DAILY NEWS
1) Judge Orders Jury Trial in Rossi et al v. Darden et al Starting June 26, 2017 (updated)
http://www.e-catworld.com/2016/07/03/judge-orders-jury-trial-in-rossi-et-al-v-darden-et-al-starting-june-26-2017/
2) NEW THREAD- Eventually a scientific-technical not Rossi vs. IH discussion at LENR Forum::
David Fojt: Replication discussion
2) NEW THREAD- Eventually a scientific-technical not Rossi vs. IH discussion at LENR Forum::
David Fojt: Replication discussion
https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/index.php/Thread/3417-David-Fojt-Replication-discussion/?postID=27655#post27655
3) LENR News Portal:
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4) Good news, announcement from Bob Greenyer MFMP:
https://drive.google.com/open?
Thank you Bob H.! Thank you Bob G.!
LENR IN CONTEXT-1
There are many similarities between LENR and photosynthesis in complexity and diversity.
Challenges facing an understanding of the nature of low-energy excited states in photosynthesis
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0005272816305709
Abstract
While the majority of the photochemical states and pathways related to the biological capture of solar energy are now well understood and provide paradigms for artificial device design, additional low-energy states have been discovered in many systems with obscure origins and significance. However, as low-energy states are naively expected to be critical to function, these observations pose important challenges. A review of known properties of low energy states covering eight photochemical systems, and options for their interpretation, are presented. A concerted experimental and theoretical research strategy is suggested and outlined, this being aimed at providing a fully comprehensive understanding.
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Chris Crouch: What is the true job of a problem?
http://www.knoxnews.com/business/journal/chris-crouch-what-is-the-true-job-of-a-problem-34b2e1ef-d120-5519-e053-0100007feb7c-384873721.html
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4) Good news, announcement from Bob Greenyer MFMP:
MFMP collaborator Bob Higgins open sources his affordable corona discharge Neutron detection system that he has designed over the past few months since *GlowStick* 5.3
For links to the paper, to ask questions and read more information go to our main blog here:
Direct link to paper:https://drive.google.com/open?
Thank you Bob H.! Thank you Bob G.!
LENR IN CONTEXT-1
There are many similarities between LENR and photosynthesis in complexity and diversity.
Challenges facing an understanding of the nature of low-energy excited states in photosynthesis
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0005272816305709
Abstract
While the majority of the photochemical states and pathways related to the biological capture of solar energy are now well understood and provide paradigms for artificial device design, additional low-energy states have been discovered in many systems with obscure origins and significance. However, as low-energy states are naively expected to be critical to function, these observations pose important challenges. A review of known properties of low energy states covering eight photochemical systems, and options for their interpretation, are presented. A concerted experimental and theoretical research strategy is suggested and outlined, this being aimed at providing a fully comprehensive understanding.
LENR IN CONTEXT-2
Chris Crouch: What is the true job of a problem?
http://www.knoxnews.com/business/journal/chris-crouch-what-is-the-true-job-of-a-problem-34b2e1ef-d120-5519-e053-0100007feb7c-384873721.html
human networks connect through empathy
What flow meter(s) was actually used? How did it measure both steam and water and their relative ratios at it exited the device?
ReplyDeletePeter Gluck has excoriated me for saying:
ReplyDelete"Anyone knowledgeable about flowmeters can tell you a dozen ways to make the answer 10 times too large. It hardly matters which of these methods Rossi used. As I said, read the manual and you too will learn how to get the wrong answer."
Instead of carrying on like an opera prima donna, he should try doing what I suggested. Read the manual for a flowmeter. Or read about how the people at Defkalion made the flowmeter give the wrong result. See:
http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/GamberaleLfinaltechn.pdf
Here you have an example of fraud committed with a flowmeter in the field of cold fusion, at kilowatt levels. Yet Gluck denies this is even possible!
Jed,
DeleteFirst I love opera have read about primadonnas but do not remember one of them interested in flowmeters.
You are making quite strange associations, sorry.
I agree with your idea there are many instruction manuals for flowmeters on the web. Feel free to choose which mnafacturer you wish and any type of its product - than we will read it in parallel and you indicate where are the methods you are adverting described. Or what you want to show because your idea is not clear.
We can ak my new Chinese flowmeter manfacturers for being the judge.
But my friendly advice is that you have gone really too far with these "2 methods to mke the flowmeeter show 10 times the real value" and let's focus on some normal ideas.
peter
Jed,
DeleteFirst I love opera have read about primadonnas but do not remember one of them interested in flowmeters.
You are making quite strange associations, sorry.
I agree with your idea there are many instruction manuals for flowmeters on the web. Feel free to choose which mnafacturer you wish and any type of its product - than we will read it in parallel and you indicate where are the methods you are adverting described. Or what you want to show because your idea is not clear.
We can ak my new Chinese flowmeter manfacturers for being the judge.
But my friendly advice is that you have gone really too far with these "2 methods to mke the flowmeeter show 10 times the real value" and let's focus on some normal ideas.
peter
This is not complicated. The manual for any instrument will list failure modes and warn you what you should not do. For example, the manual for the flowmeter Defkalion used must have said something like this: "be sure to install a backflow check valve downstream from the meter to prevent false readings or damage." Manufacturers do not want angry customers, so they are careful to point out all of the failure modes they know of.
DeleteIf you are a nefarious person, you then induce backflow deliberately in order to inflate the flow rate.
Manuals tell you how to use instruments correctly. In the course of doing so, they also tell you how to cheat.
Jed, since you are a nefarious person, you induce back-flow deliberately on blogs regarding reputations, (like an idiot on the school playground) in order to attempt to damage hardworking people. Please check the good book to confirm this about you. Correct me if I am wrong, but you get a pay check for this, right? (see Pr 4:16)
DeleteThe earth itself vomits wherever you walk.
After a lot of internet searching, I managed to find the manual of the flowmeter model supposedly used by Rossi (FlowScam DIABLO-666). After studying it thoroughly, I'm affraid I have to agree with Jed. The manual seems to be full of instruction how to mismeasure flow (there are several sections pertaining to the desired order-of-magnitude of measurement error). In fact, I can't find any section in the manual describing how to use this flowmeter to accurately measure the flow rate!
ReplyDeleteYou have not seen the analytical balance of the same company used for drugs, jewels anti-depressive medicaamnts and Aqua Tofani.
Deletepeter
Here is a guide to flow meters:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.omega.com/prodinfo/flowmeters.html
It describes how you have consider many parameters when selecting a meter, such as "The fluid and its given and its pressure, temperature, allowable pressure drop, density (or specific gravity), conductivity, viscosity (Newtonian or not?) and vapor pressure at maximum operating temperature are listed, together with an indication of how these properties might vary or interact. In addition, all safety or toxicity information should be provided, together with detailed data on the fluid's composition, presence of bubbles, solids (abrasive or soft, size of particles, fibers), tendency to coat, and light transmission qualities (opaque, translucent or transparent?). . . . Expected minimum and maximum pressure and temperature values . . . Whether flow can reverse . . ."
The last parameter was the one the people at Defkalion choose to create their fraudulent results.
If you install the wrong kind, it will give the wrong answer. There are enough parameters listed here to show at least a dozen ways to do it wrong. You can also buy the correct meter type and then install it wrong, for example without check valves, or at the wrong height, or in pipe that is not straight and long enough.