Sunday, January 24, 2016

JAN 24, 2016 LENR NEEDS REVIEWING- FAST!

MOTTO

Music du jour 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Kkxbw3s2pM

LENR LENRi lupus (Latin saying) Too many sharp conflicts and incompatibilities in our oppressed community

In LENR no unity exists in the opinions because no unifying concept, organization, or source of funding exists. (Edmund Storms)

DAILY NOTES


Actually the discussion with Ed Storms is about the necessity to make a complete, up-to-dated and extensible- i.e. constantly renewable  REVIEW of the whole LENR field. He claims that his books are actually such reviews. I think he is right only in part because his books are focused too much on the dominant PdD system, do not accept rival ideas as Piantelli's based on NiH experience and cannot assimilate what happens in Rossi's camp- obviously because it is not clear, not open, not certain and too fast. It is a mess and will remain so hopefully only till the much expected report  regarding the long duration 1MW results will be known. If supported by electric energy bills and by authorities- the report will be unkillable with no vulnerable points as Achilles or Siegfried or the Lugano Report had.
When dealing with almost intractable problems "everyone is only interested in their own ideas." Actually it is a great offer of ideas, explanations, theories coming from PdD and beyond and till no explanation can be shown to solve the problems- as reproducibilty and scale-up - no predictive explanation- some miserable form of democracy rules- all explanations are equal in principle and may vote. O.K. scientific principles are used to select the most plausible theories and to kill the most unorthodox, exotic ones but this is a complex process. People interested only in their own ideas does not necessarily mean their own original ideas, no, it includes ideas accepted and mentally assimilated- people become supporters  of the ideas of the authorities in LENR. For example an impressive number of LENR colleagues think that Ed Storms nanocrack plus hydroton  theory is the Good One. What is still missing experimentalists successfully using the theory for finding the actionable parameters and obtaining convincingly improved results.
Other people even if thoroughly studying Storms' books could came to different assumptions; for some "cracks"  lack sufficient nanocomplexity and want nano structures as active sites. 
Yes, hydrotons are necessary - but are they known and described in non-LENR cases? I also am worried seeing that other people's ideas are not based on my principles popularized in this Blog. No NiH people are discussing about the dynamics of the surface metal atoms in the E-cats.

In the Motto, Storms is speaking about three separate issues:

- unifying concept- there are many forms of LENR and we still do not know how united are they; what is common in the F&P cell at 50 C with 0.1 W/gr heat excess and the E-Cat X with 1000 W heat excess per gr- to take the extremes. It is about low temperature nuclear reactions, but only reactions and only nuclear ones, do other phenomena as nanoplamonics contribute? ( I cannot follow here the wise advise to fuse only well known data as from the first discovered Cold Fusion system

- unifying organization- ISCMNS being so tragically weakened it needs  a resurrection perhaps in a different form, new structures, new name

- unifying funding source- it is indeed possible that no member of the LENR community has communicated with the Breakthrough Energy Coalition? BEC's website is peacefully hibernating but this does not mean much..


DAILY NEWS
  
1) The most complete LENR news list by Dr. Bob
http://www.drboblog.com/news/ 

2) About and from Andrea Rossi
The psychology of Andrea Rossi - Why DIYers deserve our attention, while Rossi does nothttps://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/index.php/Thread/2688-The-psychology-of-Andrea-Rossi-Why-DIYers-deserve-our-attention-while-Rossi-does/

Andrea Rossi
January 24th, 2016 at 1:11 AM

Olov:
All the decisions of the CEO of Leonardo Corporation are taken in harmony with the ownership. The common interest is to put as soon as possible a product , but not before it has all the reliability and the certifications that are necessary.
Warm Regards,
A.R.


Maurizio Verini
January 23rd, 2016 at 4:47 PM

Dr Andrea Rossi:
About the E-Cat X, can you say this: how big can be a 500 W module?
I do not think this is pre-disclosure and also tha answer can be a ballpark definition one.
Regards,
Maurizio Verini

Andrea Rossi
January 23rd, 2016 at 5:04 PM

Maurizio Verini:
moreless like a pencil.
Warm Regards,
A.R.


Andrea Rossi
January 24th, 2016 at 7:29 AM

Toussiant
At 07.30 of Sunday January 24:
1 MW E-Cat stable,but this night has been bad.
E-Cat X under particular experiment, very promising.
Warm Regards,
A.R.

3) New Patent Application Open Power
4) Cold Fusion demonstration by Yuri Nikolaevich Bazhutov, July 24, 2015:

14 comments:

  1. Why is LENR a community thing? Or rather, a congregation.

    Because it is based on belief, not on empirical facts.

    It is very humane.

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  2. please share more on this topic, i need more details.This published one has really good information, Thank you

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    1. I thank you, details will come on daily basis
      Who are you and what are you representing?
      Peter

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  3. @Peter,
    You suggest that the ISCMNS needs some resurrection. Well, I cannot contradict this because I have no personal experience. I am just a new member of ISCMNS (January 2016). However, when the members of an organisation has no simple public method to communicate with all the members, there is not much chance that it will be a vivid community “for ever”.
    Fortunately, it is really easy to start a screened off communication blog where members of the ISCMNS – if they personally like it – can post articles and/or make comments. The site of ISCMNS don't show such an opportunity for their members. But you are a member of the ISCMNS too. Have you tried to resurrect the organisation in this way or perhaps by another “method”?

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  4. @Peter,
    Because of my reply above, I switched to the website of the ISCMNS to look for the memberlist. The link didn't work before, but now I could access the document and found myself in the list. But to my big surprise I saw an old address and I showed to be a member since 2004...

    This is really crazy! First my field of research is mathematical physics, so why should I want to be a member of ISCMNS in 2004? Moreover, when I really have applied myself as a member in 2004, why haven't I receive any email all those years? Even not a message to pay my due. So, after all, you are right: it is not a very vivid organisation.

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  5. I recently recalled that a few years ago I was tipped off that Defkalion had Piantelli as a consultant (I don't know if directly or indirectly through Nichenergy). After pondering a bit about this, one could say that their theories do look similar, although obviously they're worded differently. In turn, both theories also somehow have elements similar to Leif Holmlid's. Could it be they're all looking at the exactly same phenomenon under different angles?

    I've written a Google Document summarizing how the reaction is supposed to work in all cases. Can you spot the similarities as well? A common theme seems to be exciting hydrogen atoms dissociated from hydrogen molecules.
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