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More discussions around the truth of IH in their dispute with Rossi and logic
Unfortunately things did not calm down after my pacifist message regarding the feline nature of the E-cat
a) Dewey Weaver wrote nicely :
"I think that Peter Gluck may have lost the ability to reason and discern between fact and fiction."
I consider this as highly offensive! Not for me, obviously but for the poor facts.
(Let's extend them with "factoids" to have a better insight.
Dewey, the followings are FACTS or FICTION?
- IH has collaborated with Andrea Rossi and for 3 long years it was silent as a grave regarding the non-value of Rossi's technology?
- during this silent period IH made good business, got investors, tens of millions of dollars including in China - and NOT based on the technologies competitors of Rossi but on the E-Cats?
- IH has merrily applied for a patent based on Rossi's unsubstantiable process?
- IH has used "stellar" for the 1MW plant to visitors (fact or fiction?)
- the ERV, now in disgrace at IH but paid by them has reported about the results after 3, 6, 9 and 12 months but the negative feedback came only after the start of the trial by Rossi?
- the employees of IH have made all the time parallel measurements regarding the functional parameters of the plant but ha not claimed that something is not OK? (again fact of fiction?);ve
- if IH knew that the test does not show even traces of excess heat, is useless and hopeless why they have NOT asked/told Rossi to stop? Isn't this an act of sadism toward a collaborator?
Dear Dewey- if you wish I accept having a two figures IQ xy not xyz as the smart people, but even so my IQ is offended, as the facts are, by your arguments
I sincerely prefer to translate a few Russian and Italian LENR papers than this dispute not generating a iota of excess of intelligence, with you. Let's see a solid condensed, convincing statement from IH- anticipating the opponent.. Official.
b) Jed Rothwell is also polite but firm
In his latest travesty of a blog, Peter Gluck wrote:
No, this is completely wrong in every respect, as I have pointed out many times previously:No one is pushing me.
There is nothing unnatural, implausible or unbelievable about I.H.'s claim. Any person who understands calorimetry and examines the data will agree with their analysis. If Rossi and Penon seriously believe there is 50 times output they are both certified idiots (not just Penon).
As I said, several times, I have seen some of the technical data from the calorimetry. Based on that, I am sure I.H. is correct, and Rossi is wrong. I have also seen independent verification of this data from sources outside of I.H., so I am sure it is real.
I know enough about I.H.'s "real position" regarding calorimetry to judge this matter, although I look forward to learning more. I know nothing about business arrangements or contracts.
I know enough information to judge these things with confidence. You, on the other hand, know nothing about them. All you have to go on are Rossi's assertions from his blog. These range from nonsense to impossible. The information he already released in the lawsuit rules out his claims. If the reactor were producing as much heat as he claims, he and the others in the building would be cooked. They would be dead. In fact, it is not producing any excess heat. If and when I.H. becomes free to publish the technical data, everyone will see this, and you will see that Rossi has been playing you for a fool.
My answer
Perhaps it is better Jed is not discontented with IH and it is excellent (see the part marked with red) that he has sufficient data re the calorimetry to have the certainty that calorimetry shows that IH is correct and Rossi is wrong. However his opinion about the ERV is not believable; idiots are jobless or self-employed in the best case.:
The ERV is a nuclear engineer and his expertise is in evaluating the energy production of nuclear plants- what's so special and mysterious with this 1MW plant? It consumes some electric energy and produces thermal energy as steam. Both easily measurable. What is so esoteric, so instable, so vulnerable here?
My bet is that Jed trying to convince us that IH owns the Truth will share with us what he knows with certainty about calorimetry and tell us why the COP was all time less than 1. Not very technically, more in principle than in details, but those who have performed energy-heat measurements and balances will understand.
Or what he claims is a bluff, sorry.
More at this Vortex thread:
https://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg109776.html
DAILY NEWS
1) Congress Is Suddenly Interested in Cold Fusion
DAILY NOTES
More discussions around the truth of IH in their dispute with Rossi and logic
Unfortunately things did not calm down after my pacifist message regarding the feline nature of the E-cat
a) Dewey Weaver wrote nicely :
"I think that Peter Gluck may have lost the ability to reason and discern between fact and fiction."
I consider this as highly offensive! Not for me, obviously but for the poor facts.
(Let's extend them with "factoids" to have a better insight.
Dewey, the followings are FACTS or FICTION?
- IH has collaborated with Andrea Rossi and for 3 long years it was silent as a grave regarding the non-value of Rossi's technology?
- during this silent period IH made good business, got investors, tens of millions of dollars including in China - and NOT based on the technologies competitors of Rossi but on the E-Cats?
- IH has merrily applied for a patent based on Rossi's unsubstantiable process?
- IH has used "stellar" for the 1MW plant to visitors (fact or fiction?)
- the ERV, now in disgrace at IH but paid by them has reported about the results after 3, 6, 9 and 12 months but the negative feedback came only after the start of the trial by Rossi?
- the employees of IH have made all the time parallel measurements regarding the functional parameters of the plant but ha not claimed that something is not OK? (again fact of fiction?);ve
- if IH knew that the test does not show even traces of excess heat, is useless and hopeless why they have NOT asked/told Rossi to stop? Isn't this an act of sadism toward a collaborator?
Dear Dewey- if you wish I accept having a two figures IQ xy not xyz as the smart people, but even so my IQ is offended, as the facts are, by your arguments
I sincerely prefer to translate a few Russian and Italian LENR papers than this dispute not generating a iota of excess of intelligence, with you. Let's see a solid condensed, convincing statement from IH- anticipating the opponent.. Official.
b) Jed Rothwell is also polite but firm
In his latest travesty of a blog, Peter Gluck wrote:
"However I think his anger has a deeper cause- he is wanting or being pushed somehow to defend IH's very unnatural, surprising and implausible position so he has to tell difficultly believable things- he also does not know much about IH's real position , arguments and justifications. Do you agree, Jed?"
No, this is completely wrong in every respect, as I have pointed out many times previously:No one is pushing me.
There is nothing unnatural, implausible or unbelievable about I.H.'s claim. Any person who understands calorimetry and examines the data will agree with their analysis. If Rossi and Penon seriously believe there is 50 times output they are both certified idiots (not just Penon).
As I said, several times, I have seen some of the technical data from the calorimetry. Based on that, I am sure I.H. is correct, and Rossi is wrong. I have also seen independent verification of this data from sources outside of I.H., so I am sure it is real.
I know enough about I.H.'s "real position" regarding calorimetry to judge this matter, although I look forward to learning more. I know nothing about business arrangements or contracts.
I know enough information to judge these things with confidence. You, on the other hand, know nothing about them. All you have to go on are Rossi's assertions from his blog. These range from nonsense to impossible. The information he already released in the lawsuit rules out his claims. If the reactor were producing as much heat as he claims, he and the others in the building would be cooked. They would be dead. In fact, it is not producing any excess heat. If and when I.H. becomes free to publish the technical data, everyone will see this, and you will see that Rossi has been playing you for a fool.
My answer
Perhaps it is better Jed is not discontented with IH and it is excellent (see the part marked with red) that he has sufficient data re the calorimetry to have the certainty that calorimetry shows that IH is correct and Rossi is wrong. However his opinion about the ERV is not believable; idiots are jobless or self-employed in the best case.:
The ERV is a nuclear engineer and his expertise is in evaluating the energy production of nuclear plants- what's so special and mysterious with this 1MW plant? It consumes some electric energy and produces thermal energy as steam. Both easily measurable. What is so esoteric, so instable, so vulnerable here?
My bet is that Jed trying to convince us that IH owns the Truth will share with us what he knows with certainty about calorimetry and tell us why the COP was all time less than 1. Not very technically, more in principle than in details, but those who have performed energy-heat measurements and balances will understand.
Or what he claims is a bluff, sorry.
https://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg109776.html
DAILY NEWS
1) Congress Is Suddenly Interested in Cold Fusion
2) From Daniele Passerini
Are you looking for LENR? Then you are lookingforheat.com! (ITA/EN)
3) LENR IS REAL- a continuing discussion
4) Re The Satellite Cold Fusion Session at Leuwen- Jed Rothwell communicates:
The European Physical Society will hold a cold fusion session if 40 people sign up for it. So sign up if you are interested. The meeting will be on July 9 in Leuven, Belgiumhttps://kuleuvencongres.be/eps2016/scientific-program/satellite_meeting
We have already announced this interesting session (classic LENR plus Holmlid) but have not seen this "if"... What will happen?
3) LENR IS REAL- a continuing discussion
4) Re The Satellite Cold Fusion Session at Leuwen- Jed Rothwell communicates:
The European Physical Society will hold a cold fusion session if 40 people sign up for it. So sign up if you are interested. The meeting will be on July 9 in Leuven, Belgiumhttps://kuleuvencongres.be/eps2016/scientific-program/satellite_meeting
We have already announced this interesting session (classic LENR plus Holmlid) but have not seen this "if"... What will happen?