tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-326167780677397310.post4473111747709931503..comments2024-03-27T21:35:04.988-07:00Comments on EGO OUT: LENR- VERY NECESSARY CHANGESGeorgina Popescuhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04628821029016016988noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-326167780677397310.post-34621206123774392602013-08-21T17:54:10.144-07:002013-08-21T17:54:10.144-07:00The most advanced LENR technology results from par...The most advanced LENR technology results from partnership of many branches of science, here LENR thrives. SPAWAR and NASA are examples of labs where advanced LENR engineering is emerging, with both flight (NASA LENR Boeing 747) and the transmutation of nuclear waste (The GEC GeNie Reactor).<br /><br />Yes, doing the same thing with limited involvement is most likely limiting. Enthusiastic involvement by many branches of science, in advanced laboratories, leads to success.<br /><br />LENR The Debutante At the Ball <br />http://coldfusionnow.org/lenr-the-debutante-at-the-ball/G. B. Goblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08640057885538899243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-326167780677397310.post-76805674190085938972013-08-14T02:41:01.843-07:002013-08-14T02:41:01.843-07:00Mary
You well know Zaroff is a regular poster who ...Mary<br />You well know Zaroff is a regular poster who adopted the Zaroff id just to attack and ridicule anyone who the attack team want to shut down.<br /><br />The Zaroff id never posts anything whatsoever supportive of an open mind or any belief that LENR/LENR+ may be real.<br /><br />I have a great story about a friend's old decrepit and farting black dog that sums Zaroff up to perfection. Maybe I need to post it here too.<br /><br />DSM<br /><br />dsjm1https://www.blogger.com/profile/07779323885237127015noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-326167780677397310.post-84991926842726312472013-08-13T16:13:58.172-07:002013-08-13T16:13:58.172-07:00MaryYugo
This snide quip by you is a classic exam...MaryYugo<br /><br />This snide quip by you is a classic example of your warping details to belittle anyone who may have shown positive interest in a LENR+ device.<br /><br /><b>"In fact the only identified person you seem to have no problems with so far is Nelson, an investigator of perpetual motion claims."</b><br /><br />To me this is typical of a troll poster who makes derogatory remarks using anonymity about respected professionals such as Nelson. The clear tactic is to besmirch anyone who says anything positive. Even Prof Kim (and we have been through your bad behavior on that matter elsewhere).<br /><br />You know about Nelson (because I posted details at ECN) of Nelson's background with NASA and the presentations he has given at NASA GRC LENR related conferences in 2011 & 2012.<br /><br />Thankyou<br /><br />DSMdsjm1https://www.blogger.com/profile/07779323885237127015noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-326167780677397310.post-22699000637676485072013-08-13T16:04:31.411-07:002013-08-13T16:04:31.411-07:00MaryYugo
I think you answer needs an accurate res...MaryYugo<br /><br />I think you answer needs an accurate response.<br /><br />a) You claim other people get offend by you, yes I have seen that but too often it is you being abusive as wwell as bullying in your comments. You are *not* an angel of any sort.<br /><br />b) The 'qualified people' to my knowledge do not know you personally and you have never admitted this, (unless 1 of them just happened to be you which I doubt).<br /><br />c) Your anonymity IS AN ISSUE ? - how can you pretent it isn't ?<br /><br />DSMdsjm1https://www.blogger.com/profile/07779323885237127015noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-326167780677397310.post-57394746719443314592013-08-12T09:24:05.247-07:002013-08-12T09:24:05.247-07:00Dear John,
Since the first question from Alain is...Dear John,<br /><br />Since the first question from Alain is technical in nature, can you elaborate about the measurement discrepancy? You have been very open about the experimental setup.R Hopefulnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-326167780677397310.post-36434076748030939422013-08-11T16:42:17.779-07:002013-08-11T16:42:17.779-07:00First time in history that anyone has quoted "...First time in history that anyone has quoted "General Zaroff"... let us pray it is the last.<br /><br />Shane D.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-326167780677397310.post-5103643702703695452013-08-11T13:28:18.259-07:002013-08-11T13:28:18.259-07:00/As specialist of e-trust I know the difference be.../As specialist of e-trust I know the difference between having a proof of something, and sharing a proof of something.<br />I also know that is the peer does not want to accept the proof, there is nothing else to do than retry, change the algorithm, or break the communication. If the peer-party is not honest there is no way to make it accept anything, because he can just say NO. At worst a third party can claim the evidence is valid, but the peer-party can reject the third party unless the protocol is well locked.<br /><br />note also that in that domain, with my experience, I know there is no "trusted third party" agreed by both side, since the mainstream side have shown reluctance to reality and fraud, and since the few realist accepting LENR are immediately accused of complicity and delusion.<br /><br />I would advice to use "innocent children" (non academic students in engineering) to test the reactor (like an engineering school Junior Enterprise), but I know that the academic will again reject those lower species as unable to judge of so important claims, demanding the standard delusioned academics (who even if realist, often are less competent in electricity and plumbing).<br /><br /><br />Try to convince a 9/11 conspiracy fan, about the mainstream theory and you will see that to convince, evidence are not enough...<br /><br />I admit that the position of Luca Gamberale let us think there is a real weakness in the proof presented end of july. <br /><br />however beside that detail, I have see you, and others ask for any variation of protocol, then change and ask something else, moan on optimism and pessimism, on precision and lack of precision, ...<br /><br />The basic of Hypercritic method is to move target as soon as it seems that the other party comply with your demands...<br /><br />Thomas Kuhn concluded that there is no possibility to convince the other side, whatever the evidence are, until it have material impact that give huge advantage to one side.<br /><br />for LENR it means sales and big money.Alain_Cohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08352476615242858677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-326167780677397310.post-89541939498591167382013-08-11T11:41:09.601-07:002013-08-11T11:41:09.601-07:00You don't know the history of the tests- in a ...You don't know the history of the tests- in a fisrt stge DGT<br />has focused on control- and this was very effective; yopur best friend Rossi still has control problems.<br /><br />Your genius is not necessary in order to solve any problem of<br />DGT, howver if you, the Queen of deniers and the saditsic fairy<br />come make a test and being honest say it works, this would be a good and free advertisment. No other reason to invite you.<br />Do not care for independent tests of Hyperions. And a good joke we can enjoy together with you-- "Mamma mia mia, I thought I am infailible" will you say laughing. Do not worry for the generators and for the company. Take care of your reputation- in this case.<br />PeterAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-326167780677397310.post-22617428158042751652013-08-11T11:19:38.298-07:002013-08-11T11:19:38.298-07:00Perhaps, Peter, but do you see "Zaroff's&...Perhaps, Peter, but do you see "Zaroff's" point? It makes no sense for Defkalion to claim that they have working high power reactors under continuous test by the dozen, each with built in flow calorimetry. This is what they said almost two years ago? <br /><br />And then they show something completely lame and inadequate to Lewan? And they ask someone they don't know, from the internet, (me) to do a test? Alone without help?<br /><br />This is a bad joke, don't you think? It certainly can not be a valid effort by Hadjichristos to acquire a properly conducted and reliable independent test, can it? Anyone reasonable can see that the "offer" is not intended to be a serious one leading to an actual test.<br /><br />No legitimate offer would be made that way.maryyugonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-326167780677397310.post-9721169067082407272013-08-11T10:48:30.404-07:002013-08-11T10:48:30.404-07:00No problem MARY, I have read even greater idiocies...No problem MARY, I have read even greater idiocies than this<br />on the internet, not many but quite enough. The recipe is simple<br />say exact the contrary of truth. <br />The worst imbecilities of all are on the anti-vaccine group sites.<br />This Zaroff would be a smart guy there. Despite his negative IQ.<br />PeterAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-326167780677397310.post-34278827878687264682013-08-11T10:37:29.748-07:002013-08-11T10:37:29.748-07:00With apologies to Peter for a slightly off-topic p...With apologies to Peter for a slightly off-topic post, I am quoting what "General Zaroff" has to say on another blog-- I found it relevant as well as very funny:<br /><br /><i>"... the situation at DGT is absolutely humiliating. Could you imagine being a “scientist” there, having the solution to the world’s energy problems on your desktop for the past two years, and still not being competent enough to measure the energy balance properly? To top it all off, the company is now seeking the help of an anonymous blogger to test the device for you. Yikes, I think the average employee there could make a strong cse for getting a refund on their university tuition at this point."</i><br /><br />From: <a href="http://wavewatching.net/fringe/open-thread/#comment-8375" rel="nofollow">http://wavewatching.net/fringe/open-thread/#comment-8375</a>maryyugonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-326167780677397310.post-72580641462000522282013-08-11T10:02:33.253-07:002013-08-11T10:02:33.253-07:00"MY, For the record, Jeane Manning did go to...<i>"MY, For the record, Jeane Manning did go to the DGT Vancouver office to test the hyperion this past spring. Accompanying her were 2 experienced Electrical Engineers from an interested power company along with a physics expert from a National Laboratory."</i><br />-<br />Ms. Manning's report is found here:<br /><br />http://www.infinite-energy.com/images/pdfs/ManningIE110.pdf<br /><br />If you would take the trouble to read it, you would find it contains no test results and no technical information. The people who accompanied her are said to have been under an NDA and are not identified (what a surprise!). Also, the lab supposedly involved is not identified. Their conclusions are not provided. Their test, if there was one, would have been done with Defkalion's technicians and facilities and therefore would not be independent. I saw this and critiqued it when it first came out, what?--a few weeks ago?<br />maryyugonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-326167780677397310.post-70265264863867552202013-08-11T06:27:27.123-07:002013-08-11T06:27:27.123-07:00Dear Allan
Asking Peter's forgiveness as havin...Dear Allan<br />Asking Peter's forgiveness as having to respond (again) off topic under his very interesting article, I can say that the questions you raised are business and not science or technology related. As such, they will be answered in due time through official announcements in our company's web site.<br />Thank you for your supportive interest.<br />John HadjichristosJohn Hadjichristoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13745216633198255742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-326167780677397310.post-72611172405695371682013-08-11T02:28:51.795-07:002013-08-11T02:28:51.795-07:00Dear Mr Hadjichristos, beside that fencing at spec...Dear Mr Hadjichristos, beside that fencing at speckled foil, I take the occasion to ask few question.<br /><br />- First do you confirm the statement of Luca gamberale on the discrepancies found, and test in September. can you give some details on the questions raised. Is it a long lasting problems, of a specific discrepancy linked to that precise setup? Is it applicable to Nelson testing?<br /><br />- about the IPO preparation announced in ToVima, there are some speculation about the reasons of such call for capital. Do you have an official position?<br /><br />- can you tell us if in the process of IPO, beside the name of the partners and licensee, you will publish third party test reports ? What should be the number of such independent test (on-site, off-site, independent instruments and plumbing)? how independent? what kind of organisation (certification labs, academics, govt agency, non physicist academics, which kind of countries involved)...<br /><br />I am among those who feel that we are few days before the Berlin wall was open, but I remember that the day before it was open and soon dismantled, someone was gunned to death for trying to pass through.<br /><br />as a tech-watcher I see some ebullience on the convinced and deniers sides, but the outcome is uncertain. The VoPo are well armed and parrot the same moto.<br />this is where you answers may cool down some fears, and impede some armchairs critics raised by lack of information.<br /><br />Best regards.Alain_Cohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08352476615242858677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-326167780677397310.post-16427382204952336472013-08-10T23:40:13.505-07:002013-08-10T23:40:13.505-07:00Answered by email.Answered by email.maryyugonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-326167780677397310.post-29935528166114340242013-08-10T21:06:39.351-07:002013-08-10T21:06:39.351-07:00Mary Yugo- I will not feed your megalomania, but i...Mary Yugo- I will not feed your megalomania, but it is not<br />acceptable to replace Moby Dick with two dolphins.<br />In the off-line real world anonymous persons cannot be partners for discussions nad collaborations.<br /><br />However, can you send me the sketch or leading proinciples of the testing protocol worked out by you for the generators?<br /><br />PeterAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-326167780677397310.post-68524805347890312922013-08-10T20:10:22.814-07:002013-08-10T20:10:22.814-07:00MY,
For the record, Jeane Manning did go to the D...MY,<br /><br />For the record, Jeane Manning did go to the DGT Vancouver office to test the hyperion this past spring. Accompanying her were 2 experienced Electrical Engineers from an interested power company along with a physics expert from a National Laboratory.<br /><br />I only mention this after your comment accusing DGT of negligence for not: "making this offer to a national laboratory".<br /><br />If you are interested in Mannings report afterwards, I suggest you look it up. Appears she and those accompanying her, including the one from the "National Lab", were quite impressed with the R5.<br /><br />Shane D.Shane D.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-326167780677397310.post-36389506473574795962013-08-10T18:28:15.863-07:002013-08-10T18:28:15.863-07:00"We offered YOU in public (and only you)...&q...<i>"We offered YOU in public (and only you)..."</i><br />-<br />The type of test we are talking about can not be done by only one person as is obvious from Mats Lewan's recent rushed and completely inadequate "performance". And if your staff is involved in helping with the measurements, it is not any longer an independent test. So your above response revealed that this is not an offer for a proper and independent test and it never was.<br /><br />Furthermore, making this offer to me (and "only" me) instead of, for example, a national laboratory, makes absolutely no sense. Exactly like just about everything else your company has done or said over the previous two years. <br /><br />"Your way" is not the way a real cold fusion device would ever be demonstrated or properly tested if it were real.maryyugonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-326167780677397310.post-72728260953245581102013-08-10T18:15:35.664-07:002013-08-10T18:15:35.664-07:00" ...we do not communicate with people hiding...<i>" ...we do not communicate with people hiding under anonymity and we do not consider messages signed with nick names as "private communication" but as non-messages..."</i><br />-<br /><br />So, just as I thought, it is not a real offer, it is just a scam and a weird fascination with my identity. It has nothing to do with obtaining a proper test. You do not want a proper test of your machine.<br /><br />You don't seem to have a problem with the anonymity of those six of the ten world's greatest companies which your chairman, Xanthoulis said (to Mats Lewan) have tested your device. You have apparently no problem with the anonymity of the seven major companies which supposedly tested your device in April 2012.<br /><br />In fact the only identified person you seem to have no problems with so far is Nelson, an investigator of perpetual motion claims.<br /><br /><i>"So, either our way or take the highway."</i> Yes. That's evidence of your tremendous spirit of cooperation!<br /><br />Obviously you don't want a test from me and you'd never allow it. If you change your mind, talk to Angus like I asked you to. If you just want games, I am not playing.maryyugonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-326167780677397310.post-59097429135474742452013-08-10T15:18:25.445-07:002013-08-10T15:18:25.445-07:00@maryyugo
We offered YOU in public (and only you)...@maryyugo<br /><br />We offered YOU in public (and only you) the privilege to make a test under only one condition: tell us in public who are you, the one to sign a test report. No NDA we required nor any other condition. You try to avoid that only condition hiding bellow claims and other anonymous people or people that do not know you.<br /><br />Dear Mary Whatever, we do not communicate with people hiding under anonymity and we do not consider messages signed with nick names as "private communication" but as non-messages. <br /><br />So, either our way or take the highway.<br />John Hadjichristos<br /><br /><br /><br /> John Hadjichristoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13745216633198255742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-326167780677397310.post-1572366858795841342013-08-10T12:21:22.934-07:002013-08-10T12:21:22.934-07:00I'll tell you publicly. The problem is that a...I'll tell you publicly. The problem is that a lot true believers get easily offended when I gore their ox and cast doubt on their lovely but fanciful beliefs. They tend to get abusive, and they threaten to stalk me or take legal action. I don't need any of those things.<br /><br />The other point is that my identity IS NOT and NEVER WAS an issue.<br /><br />I provided the names of two qualified people who can speak for me and are willing to be identified.<br /><br />So now, what is the problem with Hadjichristos making a proper proposal and agreeing to a protocol and a date for a test?<br /><br />And for goodness' sake, why doesn't he answer the simple questions I asked him about his previous statements? Why don't you as Hadjichristos that? And also while you're at it, ask him why he published the well intentioned but clearly private email from Angus? Is that supposed to help us trust him?<br /><br />Those are the things that matter in this issue of whether or not Defkalion really can do LENR. To think the issue is my identity is preposterous and ridiculous. It couldn't matter less. maryyugonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-326167780677397310.post-35365834591938261382013-08-10T10:56:39.991-07:002013-08-10T10:56:39.991-07:00Dear Mary,
before any discusiions, can you explai...Dear Mary,<br /><br />before any discusiions, can you explain me in private why you<br />HAVE to hide your identiy?<br /><br />And answer me also very sincerely, would you discuss any kind of<br />collaboration with somebody who hides his/her identity?<br /><br />I will understand if somebody says he/she has worked for FBI and has signed an identity hiding contract for 50 years after retiring. Is this your case?<br />I will not reveal to anybody your confessions (NDA of honor)<br /><br />PeterAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-326167780677397310.post-16621169724876118122013-08-10T10:38:16.358-07:002013-08-10T10:38:16.358-07:00The True Believers on other forums seem to think I...The True Believers on other forums seem to think I refused Hadjichristos's offer to test the Hyperion. In fact, here is what happened.<br />-<br /><br />For what I hope is the last time, I did not refuse to test the Hyperion.<br /><br />Here is what I actually did (here on Peter’s blog you can read most of it, the rest is by email and the discussion of method is on Henning Dekant's blog):<br /><br />- I responded that I would put Hadjichristos in touch with two qualified scientists who would do the preliminary preparations with him so the three of us, and some technical people we would bring, could do the test.<br /><br />- I laid out some very reasonable conditions for the test<br /><br />- Henning Dekant, and many others including me, contributed to putting together a DETAILED step by step protocol for properly testing the Hyperion. Hadjichristos did not respond.<br /><br />- I required that my anonymity be preserved but ONLY UNTIL THE TEST BEGAN. In the meantime, the identity and qualifications of the other two investigators would be revealed on the internet. One is already public and is Henning Dekant who is very qualified to participate.<br /><br />- The other scientist is a professor emeritus of engineering physics (EXACTLY the specialty needed) at a large university. He emailed Hadjichristos privately asking for discreet contact. What did Hadjichristos do? He published the private email on the internet.<br /><br />- Did Hadjichristos make a good faith response to my acceptance of his offer (with a few simple conditions)? HE DID NOT.<br /><br />- Did Hadjichristos make a proper response to Henning Dekant and the physics professor? HE DID NOT.<br /><br />- Did Hadjichristos respond to a few polite preliminary questions about his and his company’s previous claims which I asked him here in another message string? HE DID NOT.<br /><br />- Did Hadjichristos propose some alternative scenario if he did not like the one I suggested? HE DID NOT.<br /><br />So basically, Hadjichristos seems to have a weird and inappropriate fascination about the identity of skeptics and critics. And that’s all. <br /><br />There is and never was a real offer to test Hyperions. In addition, there is no reason or logic to the strange idea of inviting critics and skeptics on the internet test Hyperion. <br /><br />maryyugonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-326167780677397310.post-52641063628368729932013-08-09T13:08:50.707-07:002013-08-09T13:08:50.707-07:00hum, I'm skeptic...
I have a huge tendency to...hum, I'm skeptic...<br /><br />I have a huge tendency to think that the basic laws of physics (conservation of mass energy, charges, bonds on entropy, uncertainty, ,lightspeed limit) holds...<br />but anyway I follow the experimental results... <br /><br />for now the law of business, psychology, and stage magic, tell me that DGT have something real and feel comfortable about it .<br />the laws of Corporate Behavior are compatible with that.<br />Accepting that fact, the law of thermodynamic, tel me that COP>100 is not to exclude with good engineering...<br /><br />beside that, and especially in physics theory, I only know that theory have to follow experiments and not constraint their acceptation.<br /><br />among the theory who are compatible with the facts, the ones which respect the basic conservation laws contain probably the good one.<br />But I did not design the World, so it is a guess. ;-)Alain_Cohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08352476615242858677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-326167780677397310.post-43715756560183541312013-08-09T11:28:36.451-07:002013-08-09T11:28:36.451-07:00Dear Alain, from 2012 NIweek DGT papers I have eve...Dear Alain, from 2012 NIweek DGT papers I have even more wild hypothesis:<br /><br />What punch me into nose was fact their papers (XRFS) was published with PERCENTAGE of materials, not picograms or miligrams. So I have suspicion that not only energy is produced, so also mass is PRODUCED. Very heretical and in accordance with Dr. Keshe theoriesGurunoreply@blogger.com