tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-326167780677397310.post2314131270887027052..comments2024-03-27T21:35:04.988-07:00Comments on EGO OUT: LENR FIGHTERS COMING, BUT WHAT IS THEIR RESEARCH IDEOLOGY?Georgina Popescuhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04628821029016016988noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-326167780677397310.post-45288211944531944892015-06-02T13:33:58.869-07:002015-06-02T13:33:58.869-07:00Our gap is probably is what we consider as the sci...Our gap is probably is what we consider as the scientific method.<br />You sure know better how usual science consider "scientific method".<br /><br />I agree that probably I deform a little that conception, because it is hard for me to imagine people can be so far from real world complexity... say I'm naive...<br /><br />Gastronomy is an art, but making good food by tons, 24x7, at stable quality, is engineering.<br /><br />sure is if focussing hugely on full theory is the scientific method, we probably agree. I have seen that often, but I imagined it was dogmatism not science.Alain_Cohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08352476615242858677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-326167780677397310.post-23166011653589101732015-06-02T12:13:16.566-07:002015-06-02T12:13:16.566-07:00Dear Alain,
Peer review is a very disputed subjec...Dear Alain,<br /><br />Peer review is a very disputed subjects- see e.g. the journal Scientometrics. For CF/LENR it is difficult to define what a peer can be- as long as elementary things remain incognoscible<br /><br />The problem is not early stage the problem is lack of oprogress. What is the essentila progress in Pd D from say 1991 to today (facts, mon ami)<br /><br />Because we do not know so many things and cannot control the phenomena LENR classic is clearly pre-science not science. You cannot create realistic hypotheses and you cannot do reliable experiments so you cannot apply the Scientific Method to it. I am speaking about now, not in principle.<br /><br />The metaphor of the cake...do you like it? Tells it something to you?<br />Science purists say gastronomy is not a genuine science.<br /><br />Ok, if you can, please explain us how the Scientific Methode well known and described can be applied to LENR.<br />See please my comment re this in my editorial Zerith.. published an hour ago.<br /><br />Peter<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-326167780677397310.post-78335332401942988982015-06-02T10:39:31.649-07:002015-06-02T10:39:31.649-07:00maybe having professional reviewer is not what sci...maybe having professional reviewer is not what scientific method is.<br />It is to be done by peers. and it does not guarantee good result, just result respected by people who do the same.<br /><br />It have become a bureaucracy.<br /><br />Another point is that LENR is at an early stage, like early steam engine, and peers are tinkering with the steam...<br /><br />It is fascinating how people try to apply the standard of established science to a now coherent sequence of anomalies sharing many commonalities.<br /><br />we are far from a nuclear explanation, but there is evidences that "out of equilibrium", "hydrides", "heat", increase chance to have an anomaly...<br /><br />it is a work in progress, and it is science.<br /><br />what people expect is like the finished cake out of the oven on the table, cut in 12 shares...<br /><br />they don't want to see that it started by reading a cookbook with dirty glasses, putting flour all over the kitchen table, dropping eggs on the floor, carbonizing the first proptotype, vomiting on the second prototype test, and finally making something pleasant for the guest, and just trying to write what you did so you can redo it, with some luck...<br /><br />that is science. it is not yet industry.Alain_Cohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08352476615242858677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-326167780677397310.post-88931511881294127602015-06-02T04:32:23.445-07:002015-06-02T04:32:23.445-07:00Dear Alain,
Pathoskeptic is actually an idiot who...Dear Alain,<br /><br />Pathoskeptic is actually an idiot who enjoys insulting.<br /><br />Re the Scientific Method- how do you apply it to LENR classic? What i your hypothesis, locus, nture mechanism of the deired reactions? Are you not disturbed by facts as<br />only one test in 4, 6, 10 gives excess heat all the conditions being the same as far it is humanly possible?<br />which is you favorite explanation and how doe it help you to control, scale up the reactions?<br />how can you convince closed minded nuclear physicists that CF is <br />purely nuclear, how is it nuclear?<br />there are no unknowns in LENRs?<br /><br />Are you really serious when you tell that LENR is respected scientific method?<br /><br />what about peer review? It is not by the kibitzes and amateurs on the Web, each reputed journal has professional reviewers- and they say what they think. It is true they are not open minded, but also not clowns. Translating from my native language, scientific methiod goes with PdD LENR like a tuxedo with a cow.<br />Sorry but it hurts me that a nice, good, smart friend like you says there are no unknowns in LENR.<br />Excuse me< I am a grumpy old man.<br />Peter<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-326167780677397310.post-61436408480218656002015-06-02T04:32:13.594-07:002015-06-02T04:32:13.594-07:00Dear Alain,
Pathoskeptic is actually an idiot who...Dear Alain,<br /><br />Pathoskeptic is actually an idiot who enjoys insulting.<br /><br />Re the Scientific Method- how do you apply it to LENR classic? What i your hypothesis, locus, nture mechanism of the deired reactions? Are you not disturbed by facts as<br />only one test in 4, 6, 10 gives excess heat all the conditions being the same as far it is humanly possible?<br />which is you favorite explanation and how doe it help you to control, scale up the reactions?<br />how can you convince closed minded nuclear physicists that CF is <br />purely nuclear, how is it nuclear?<br />there are no unknowns in LENRs?<br /><br />Are you really serious when you tell that LENR is respected scientific method?<br /><br />what about peer review? It is not by the kibitzes and amateurs on the Web, each reputed journal has professional reviewers- and they say what they think. It is true they are not open minded, but also not clowns. Translating from my native language, scientific methiod goes with PdD LENR like a tuxedo with a cow.<br />Sorry but it hurts me that a nice, good, smart friend like you says there are no unknowns in LENR.<br />Excuse me< I am a grumpy old man.<br />Peter<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-326167780677397310.post-65943493018400736402015-06-02T02:59:30.580-07:002015-06-02T02:59:30.580-07:00Anout the pathoskeptic, Joshuah Cude is back onlin...Anout the pathoskeptic, Joshuah Cude is back online and motivating the gang.<br /><br />It will be nice to gather their arguments, all their logic, so we can burry those arguments as proven wrong when LENR get mainstream.<br /><br />very important work for epistemology. gathering all stupid argument is probably the best what we can do to protect future generations from functional stupidity and groupthink.<br /><br />about scientific method, I don't see any unknown problem...<br /><br />peer review are to be done by peers, not by clowns or outsiders.<br />publications are to be done where you can publish.<br /> given that , LENr is the perfect example of repected scientific method...<br />what failed is academic consensus, and academic publishers...<br /><br />what have succeeded is free market, even if it took time.<br />Alain_Cohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08352476615242858677noreply@blogger.com